How's it going folks? If you've been involved in the skeptical community for any length of time, you'll notice a phrase repeated fairly often. When talking to proponents of almost any form of pseudoscience, at some point, you'll hear them say something along the lines of "What's the worst that could happen?" To be blunt, the worst thing that can happen is almost always death or financial ruin. Everyone can point out the dangers of the anti-vaccer movement and the alt-med crowd. But many other forms of pseudoscience can have dangerous results.
Many people feel that a belief in cryptids is a bit of harmless fun, and can be entertaining. Most of the time, this is true. However, some people have sunk large amounts of money into the search for these supposed unknown creatures. They buy the latest and greatest pieces of equipment (that they don't always fully understand how to use properly), rent or buy land that they feel have the creatures living there, buy books, movies, go to lectures, and otherwise spend their hard earned money. Granted, it's not normally as bad as other forms of pseudoscience, but there is still a lot of money changing hands. There are also injuries and deaths associated with cryptids, especially Bigfoot. From CNN.com, there is the story of the poor man that was trying to hoax people with a Bigfoot costume and was hit by a car and killed. From HuffPo comes a story out of Oklahoma. A man was shot during a Bigfoot hunt, and 3 people were arrested. Of course, they have been a great many injuries suffered by folks looking for various cryptids. Falls, burns, cuts, scrapes, broken bones, and so on, though these are also injuries that anyone can get while hiking and camping, so they aren't really unusual.
Ghosts are another flavor of pseudoscience that is often thought of as being safe and harmless. Much like the cryptid hunters, they tend to buy a lot of equipment (that, once again, they don't often know how to use). They also buy books, go to lectures, and travel long distances to visit supposedly haunted locations. And much like looking for cryptids, it can be dangerous. They often go into dilapidated buildings, run around in the dark, and generally scare the hell out of themselves. From CNN.com, there is a story of a group of ghost hunters investigating a 119 year old train crash and 2 were killed. From WeekInWeird.com comes the story of a group of ghost hunters that burnt down a historic plantation in Louisiana. There are a lot of stories of ghost hunters being shot at, injured, or killed on a site called Theoccultsection.com.
Going to a psychic or a medium is just a bit of harmless fun, right? Not quite. There are dozens of stories about so-called psychics being arrested for fraud. On HuffPo, there are several links to stories of these folks being arrested. From the NYPost site, they have a story of a man being taken for $700k after his girlfriend died. And yet another story from the Skeptics Guide of a poor fellow being taken for a lot of money to remove a "love curse". When it comes to bodily harm and death caused by people going to a psychics instead of an actual medical professional, the CDC and the WHO don't really keep records. However, there are quite a few stories about folks being injured because they heeded the advice of a psychic. The problem with trying to Google these events is that they get buried under dozens of positive results concerning these hucksters. Most skeptical websites, such as Sciencebasedmedicine.org and the Neruologica Blog, will have stories about people being hurt by psychic advise.
Of course, there is the anti-vaccination group. These are the people that will claim that vaccinations can cause autism, cancer, neurological damage, and pretty much any other sort of illness you can imagine. The people that promote the anti-vaccination message are normally the same people that push all the varieties of alt-med B.S. There can be a financial deficit from believing the anti-vaccers, mostly from trying to treat an easily preventable disease. This is definitely a case of an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The treatments of preventable diseases are normally many times more expensive than the vaccinations. From the CDC, there are a lot of numbers concerning people being hospitalized or dying for vaccine preventable diseases. Of course, there is the infamous Jenny McCarthy Body Count site. You can also look at the World Health Organization (WHO) and the National Institute of Health (NIH) for even more numbers. This is one of the most dangerous forms of pseudoscience that is out there. Not only is it dangerous to the people that practice it, but it is actually dangerous to everyone around them, especially the very young, the old, and the immuno-compromised.
And of course there is homeopathy, naturopathy, acupuncture, crystal healing, and other alt-med treatments. There are so many stories of people spending their life savings on alt-med treatments that I'm not even going to try and link to the stories. There are also a ton of stories that demonstrate the physical dangers of trusting in these quacks. What a lot of these alt-med practitioners either won't tell you or they don't know is that there can be dangerous drug interactions between actual medicine and their so-called treatments. On Tim Farley's What's the Harm site, he lists not only the number of people that have either died or been injured by naturopathy, but also has economic damage listed for naturopathy, homeopathy, acupuncture, and other pseudosciences.
As I said in the beginning, the simple answer to "What's the worst that could happen?" is death. It's almost always death. Putting your trust in any sort of pseudoscience, especially when it comes to a persons health, is a dangerous proposition. I know that anything I write or say is not going to convince the hard core true believers. But hopefully, if anyone is undecided, some of this will at least get you to do a bit of research yourself. And also make sure that you validate the sites you're looking at. There are a lot of them that are just fear mongering sites. They have their own products they are trying to sell, and will attempt to scare you away from actual science in order to make a few bucks. Even though they aren't infallible, the CDC and the WHO are trustworthy sources. They have no financial gains from saying something does or doesn't work. They are simply trying to get the best and most accurate information out there.
This blog is about being a skeptic in the bible belt and some of the crap that we have to deal with. Also, I'll be discussing items of interest, occasional rants and other things that pop into my head. I will answer any questions that people may have about skepticism, atheism, me, or life in general. Don't mind the rambling, it's part of my charm. Thanks for reading, and all feedback is welcome.
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Monday, June 22, 2015
Mosquitoes....Natures syringes.
Hello loyal readers. The Skeptical Okie seems to be back in business, at least for now. I've got a doozy this time, so lets jump right into it.
So now I'll share what I've found. Starting with the bit about vitamin C, according to the Mayo Clinic, the recommended daily dose is 65-90 mg per day, with an upper limit of 2,000 mg. I've done the math, and 5 grams = 5000 mg. So he is basically taking 21/2 times the upper limit of vitamin C. Some of the symptoms of a mega dose like this are :
- Diarrhea
- Nausea
- Vomiting
- Heartburn
- Abdominal bloating and cramps
- Headache
- Insomnia
- Kidney stones
The last couple of years, mega doses of various vitamins, especially C, have been the popular thing to be offered by a lot of the Alt Med crowd. The problem is, unless you have a nutritional deficicency due to an illness or a genetic condition, most Americans easily get all the vitamins they need in just their diet alone. No need for supplements. Increasing your daily intake of any vitamin rarely does you any good, your body will just get rid of the excess in your waste. So it is literally money down the toilet.
The thing that tickled my mind about being familiar finally fell into place. Around the same time, there was a former doctor going around Oklahoma City offering what he called the Jesus Shot for $300 dollars, and former and current military got a discount. He claimed it would cure you from pain for the rest of your life. His description of the shot sounded similar to what other people had described, and I think he got swindled by the same quack.You can read a bit more about it from the Raw Story HERE. There is also an article from one of our local news affiliates, News9, but I really didn't want to link to it. The comments on the article are very disheartening. Person after person either claiming that his treatments worked for them or someone that they know, or else they are begging, literally begging to know where he is now so they can get the "Jesus shot" to help manage their symptoms. It's pretty damn depressing.
Finally, about mosquitoes transmitting AIDS, Looking through PubMed, I didn't find anything saying that it could be transmitted by this route. From what I could find, outside of a few fringe sites, everyone pretty much agrees that you can not get AIDS from a mosquito. First off, the virus is incapable of reproducing in any arthropod (mosquitoes, fleas, ticks, etc). Secondly, The viability of the virus outside of a human host is extremely short. The virus would most likely die between feedings. You can read the abstract from the NCBI HERE.
So, in conclusion, this guy was severely deluded or mislead, and possibly putting himself at great risk from trusting quacks and hearsay. This is one of the major reasons that the skeptic community and movement exist, to protect people from charlatans, misinformation, and misconceptions. Relying on Woo and pseudoscience can be costly ($300 a pop for a "miracle shot?) and dangerous (not going to real doctors). We need to pick our battles, yes, and I know that if someone is a true believer in some form of pseudoscience, you are not going to change their mind. But I will still attempt to at least give these people some additional information to hopefully get them looking at a more science based approach to their problems.
So until next time, Be Good, Be Skeptical, and be sure to tip your waiter.
The Skeptical Okie.
Tuesday, January 27, 2015
Why the skeptical community is important.
Hey folks, I know it's been a while, but I'm back, at least for now. There's been a subject that I've heard come up occasionally in various conversations that I've been trying to put words to for a while. The topic basically breaks down to "Why do we even need a skeptical community?" It's been brought up in blog posts, podcasts, and even in casual conversation, so I thought I'd give my opinion on the matter.
On episodes 3 and 4 of "The Blue Ball Skeptics" for example, Damion and Chas spoke to Matt and Sharon Madison, a couple that have been involved in skepticism for quite a while (before the founding of the JREF or CFI). They seem to feel that there isn't really a need for a skeptical community, and during the course of their interview, they state the reasons they feel that way. (To hear the entire interview click this link).
One of their main concerns deals with a "Cult of Personality" forming around a few key members in the movement (Randi, Shermer, Harris, etc), and dividing the community into various camps for or against various people. I actually agree with them on this fact. We've seen this happen with Rebecca Watson, Michael Shermer, and various other "Skeptical Leaders", for lack of a better term. They become popular in not only the skeptical communities, but also noticed by the various religious and pseudoscience groups, and even main stream media. These people have some very vocal opponents, so any indiscretion is quickly jumped on. By the same token, you have the proponents of these personalities that will verbally rip you to shreds if they think you've written anything disparaging about their favorite skeptic. All I'm going to say on this matter is that skeptics are only human, and we screw up from time to time. I'm not excusing any alleged behaviors, nor am I placing any blame. I do not know any of the major players in our community personally, nor do I have all the information to make an informed opinion one way or the other. I'm simply saying don't elevate someone above reproach, nor reprimand another for speaking their mind, without making sure you know all the details first. Even our heroes should be approached with a skeptical mindset.
Another issue that they have is the term "skeptical movement", which they state, and I also agree, sounds like a politically driven group. However, I don't have a problem with skeptics being involved in policy making. We have as much right as any other group of people to have a say in the rules under which we live. Religious organizations, alternative medicine, and other such special interest groups have some very powerful lobbyists working for them to push their agendas to the politicians, so why shouldn't we? At least we have research, critical and rational thought, and science backing our claims, versus their wishful thinking and 2000 year old books. Unfortunately, we don't have the same level of financial backing that they do.
Back to the main point of my post, "Why do we need a skeptical community?" I know that people that are much better writers than I am have written on this topic, but I feel the need to add my 2 cents on the matter. I feel that we need a skeptical community, and a skeptical movement, to help show people that they aren't alone. Growing up in the middle of Oklahoma, where you can see a homeopath next door to a psychic, and both go to the same church across the street, you tend to feel very lonely, and slightly frightened if you would rather trust science than have faith. When looking for others that share your views, you sometimes have to be very careful how you phrase things, especially if you live in a rural area. A skeptical community helps people find others that share common interests and ideas, without the constant fear of being isolated from society. Sometimes you just need to talk to someone that's been through, or is going through, the same things you are. A skeptical community or movement can also show a unified front when dealing with some of the bull that is currently being proposed in the various states legislatures. Normally, there may be a few random people writing to senators or congresspeople to complain about a certain bill, These are usually sent a pacifying form letter and promptly forgotten. However, if there is a group of people that write in expressing similar concerns, politicians will usually take notice. Awareness of the issue may be all that's accomplished, but it's a start, and this is much more easily achieved as part of a group than as a solitary person.
Another reason for a skeptical community is the sharing of information. Yes, the internet, journals, and books are great sources, but sometimes just being able to talk to someone that knows information that you don't is the best way to learn it. This allows for the quick and instant exchange of ideas and information that message boards, blog posts, magazine articles, or Youtube videos just can't duplicate.
The community doesn't have to have a strict hierarchy, it can just be a loose association of people with a few common interests that sometimes get together to talk about various topics while enjoying a variety of beverages. A loose organizational structure can possibly prevent, or at least slow down, the development of the "Cult of Personality" that seems to have risen in the larger, more organized groups.
I personally feel that the skeptical community is a valuable part of society, and as time goes on, it will become more important and more influential. It also has a bit of an advantage over many other types of communities in that we aren't as driven for fame or recognition as other groups. If we were, more skeptical bloggers would be using their real names and flashier headline grabbing posts. Yes, fame and/or recognition is great, but from what I've seen, most skeptics do what they do out of a genuine love of humanity.
Until next time, be good, be skeptical, and be sure to finish your brussel sprouts.
The Skeptical Okie
Tuesday, August 12, 2014
Creation of a skeptic
No intro today, figured I'd just jump right into my little rant/opinion piece, but as a warning, it is fairly link heavy. What I want to talk about today is the creation of a skeptic. This one basically comes from my appearance on the BlueBalls Skeptics, hosted by Damion and Chas. I'm just going to lightly touch on some of the topics as I've either already written about them, or I'm in the process of writing a stand alone article on them. And yes, this entire article is anecdotal and from personal experience.
I grew up in a fairly religious family. My parents are a mix of Methodist and Baptist, which are possibly the 2 most popular sects of christianity in Oklahoma. The small town in Arizona I spent the first 10 years of my life was evenly divided between Catholic and Mormon beliefs. We prayed in school before first hour began and we prayed before lunch. It was officially called a minute of silence, but the teacher normally led the class in a prayer. Keep in mind this was a public school in the early 80's, so it wasn't actually that unusual. I went to summer bible school every year, when I wasn't spending the remainder of the summer with grandparents in another state. I went along with everything I was told, like most kids that age. Santa Claus was the deal breaker. I remember looking at a globe in the school library wondering how big the planet was. I've always wanted to know everything, and have been intensely curious about how things worked. I asked the librarian how big Earth was. She very kindly told me it was huge. (Lot of help there, but then again, I was 5 or 6) I looked at the globe and realized there was no way 1 man could get around the whole thing and give a gift to every kid. I realized my parents had lied to me about him, and probably the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Christopher Columbus.(Ok, they got one partially right) I quickly became the most hated kid in class because I had to tell everyone what I'd figured out. Needless to say. it was safer to stay in class at recess than go out to the playground for a while.
When I was a bit older, I began reading encyclopedias from beginning to end. (This is before the internet, in the early to mid 80's) I really don't know why I did it, except I wanted to learn everything I could about everything, and as I said, it was safer for me to stay in the classroom during recess. I would tell my classmates about what I'd read, and they'd walk off talking about whatever sport was being played at the time. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed sports. I played football, baseball, soccer, basketball, and I was on the wrestling team. I was just more interested in knowledge, which is why I probably sucked at sports. It is also around this time I began paying attention to the things that adults said. When we studied the moon landing, and I told my parents about it, my dad said it was a hoax, and he could prove it. He showed me pictures of Armstrong on the moon and asked me "If he's the first man on the moon, who took the picture?" (Never mind that there were other people on the mission) He also showed me how the shadows were wrong, the lighting was strange, and some oddities in the pictures that he said were from them actually being done on a movie set. He was an amateur photographer, so I thought his explanation was reasonable. He also said that the astronauts couldn't survive the radiation out in space. When we learned about the Kennedy assassination, he simply said there was more than 1 shooter. I have an idea of what he did during his deployment to Vietnam during the war, so I thought he must know what he's talking about. Again, as I got older, his ideas got stranger. He talked for a while about the New World Order, the Knights Templar, and the Free Masons. Once I went to college, and had access to better research material, as well as that new fangled internet, I looked into his claims. That is when I went down the dark path for a while. I began to find a lot of information that normally began with "What they don't want you to know!" in an enormous font with flashy lettering. I believed it all. Then, somehow, I was able to drag myself out when I realized all these conflicting ideas couldn't all be true. I began to actually look into the details. I learned that the astronauts had placed reflectors on the surface of the moon, and you can shine a laser at them and the light will bounce back. They also brought back samples from the moon. Neither are things that can be done on a soundstage. I've seen reconstructions and forensic analysis of the Kennedy assassination that show a single shooter could have done it. I decided that if I want to know something, or find out the truth, I either need to do the research myself, or find an expert in the field and talk to them about it.
As a child, I was also exposed to water dowsing, cryptids, faith healing,and wearing either magnetic or copper bracelets for pain relief, as well as herbal, all natural, or native treatments. My mother, who always took great pride in stating that her grandmother was "a half-breed" (1/2 caucasian, 1/2 native american), would try anything she heard that native peoples used for medicine. If it worked, she would say it was because natural cures work better than modern medicine. If it didn't, the patient must have done something wrong. Looking back now, when the "cure" would work, it was more than likely either due to the placebo effect, or the natural course of an illness. I was a rather rough and tumble kid, so I had my share of broken bones (left arm twice, right arm once, right leg once, right collar bone once, various fingers and toes, fractured skull once, the nose and ribs too many times to count), and she would actually try to heal them by the laying of hands. Sometimes she claimed the spirit of god would help her heal me, other times she would also claim she could do it because she was Native American. Of course, we'd end up driving to the nearest doctor to get the bones reset and either splinted or put in a cast. She would also try this when I got a severe sunburn, which happens a lot when you haul hay for a summer job. She would claim to be drawing the pain out of me into herself. After a few minutes of being very uncomfortable, I would look at her smile, and lie my head off, telling her I felt great. As soon as I could get away, I would slather on the aloe vera gel to ease my misery, as well as raid the liquor cabinet and for the next couple of weeks, no one in the family would see me without a shirt on. Both of my parents wore copper bracelets to help with their various aches and pains, and as much as I hate to admit it, I did too. I never personally noticed any kind of improvement, but I thought it looked nice. In the late 90's, they'd moved on to magnetic bracelets to help with circulation and other problems. By this time, I'd already looking into things in a more proper, scientific manner, so I've never worn one, though I have been given several of the things. They don't look as nice as the old copper bracelets, though.
My grandfather was the one that initially exposed me to dowsing. For those that don't know, this is an old practice where you take either brass or wooden rods and use them to locate metals, oil, or water. Grandpa would take me out when he was hired by his neighbors to help them locate water so they could put in a new well. He would walk around with a forked willow stick, and when the tip would suddenly drop down, that's where he would tell them to dig. In high school, I learned that much of Oklahoma sits on top of a major aquifer, and if you dig down about 65-70 feet, you're more than likely to hit water) I later learned about the idiomotor effect, which is basically an uncontrolled muscle movement. I will admit that I have witched water wells for people, mostly to help earn some money to pay the bills. After college, and learning about the idiomotor effect, I have quit doing it, even though on rare occasion, I still have people ask me if I would come out and dowse for water. At $200 a pop, it can be pretty tempting. He's also the one that initially told me about Bigfoot and other local monster stories, which I initially took as the truth. Later, as I looked more into these, I realized the improbability of creatures like this existing.
As I've talked about previously, my wife is the one that introduced me to the larger skeptical community. It started with podcasts like the Skeptics Guide to the Universe and Skeptoid, and later on the Geologic Podcast, Herd Mentality, and a lot of history and science podcasts. I also began reading skeptical and science blogs and articles. I then began this blog, and began looking for skeptical groups in Oklahoma.
In 39 years, I've gone from a gullible child, to a full blown conspiracy theory believer, to carefully walking the very fine line between being a cynic and being a critical thinker. It hasn't been an easy journey, and I'm no where near the end (I hope), but it has definitely been worth it.
Until next time, just take it easy, and have fun, but always be skeptical.
The Skeptical Okie.
I grew up in a fairly religious family. My parents are a mix of Methodist and Baptist, which are possibly the 2 most popular sects of christianity in Oklahoma. The small town in Arizona I spent the first 10 years of my life was evenly divided between Catholic and Mormon beliefs. We prayed in school before first hour began and we prayed before lunch. It was officially called a minute of silence, but the teacher normally led the class in a prayer. Keep in mind this was a public school in the early 80's, so it wasn't actually that unusual. I went to summer bible school every year, when I wasn't spending the remainder of the summer with grandparents in another state. I went along with everything I was told, like most kids that age. Santa Claus was the deal breaker. I remember looking at a globe in the school library wondering how big the planet was. I've always wanted to know everything, and have been intensely curious about how things worked. I asked the librarian how big Earth was. She very kindly told me it was huge. (Lot of help there, but then again, I was 5 or 6) I looked at the globe and realized there was no way 1 man could get around the whole thing and give a gift to every kid. I realized my parents had lied to me about him, and probably the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Christopher Columbus.(Ok, they got one partially right) I quickly became the most hated kid in class because I had to tell everyone what I'd figured out. Needless to say. it was safer to stay in class at recess than go out to the playground for a while.
When I was a bit older, I began reading encyclopedias from beginning to end. (This is before the internet, in the early to mid 80's) I really don't know why I did it, except I wanted to learn everything I could about everything, and as I said, it was safer for me to stay in the classroom during recess. I would tell my classmates about what I'd read, and they'd walk off talking about whatever sport was being played at the time. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed sports. I played football, baseball, soccer, basketball, and I was on the wrestling team. I was just more interested in knowledge, which is why I probably sucked at sports. It is also around this time I began paying attention to the things that adults said. When we studied the moon landing, and I told my parents about it, my dad said it was a hoax, and he could prove it. He showed me pictures of Armstrong on the moon and asked me "If he's the first man on the moon, who took the picture?" (Never mind that there were other people on the mission) He also showed me how the shadows were wrong, the lighting was strange, and some oddities in the pictures that he said were from them actually being done on a movie set. He was an amateur photographer, so I thought his explanation was reasonable. He also said that the astronauts couldn't survive the radiation out in space. When we learned about the Kennedy assassination, he simply said there was more than 1 shooter. I have an idea of what he did during his deployment to Vietnam during the war, so I thought he must know what he's talking about. Again, as I got older, his ideas got stranger. He talked for a while about the New World Order, the Knights Templar, and the Free Masons. Once I went to college, and had access to better research material, as well as that new fangled internet, I looked into his claims. That is when I went down the dark path for a while. I began to find a lot of information that normally began with "What they don't want you to know!" in an enormous font with flashy lettering. I believed it all. Then, somehow, I was able to drag myself out when I realized all these conflicting ideas couldn't all be true. I began to actually look into the details. I learned that the astronauts had placed reflectors on the surface of the moon, and you can shine a laser at them and the light will bounce back. They also brought back samples from the moon. Neither are things that can be done on a soundstage. I've seen reconstructions and forensic analysis of the Kennedy assassination that show a single shooter could have done it. I decided that if I want to know something, or find out the truth, I either need to do the research myself, or find an expert in the field and talk to them about it.
As a child, I was also exposed to water dowsing, cryptids, faith healing,and wearing either magnetic or copper bracelets for pain relief, as well as herbal, all natural, or native treatments. My mother, who always took great pride in stating that her grandmother was "a half-breed" (1/2 caucasian, 1/2 native american), would try anything she heard that native peoples used for medicine. If it worked, she would say it was because natural cures work better than modern medicine. If it didn't, the patient must have done something wrong. Looking back now, when the "cure" would work, it was more than likely either due to the placebo effect, or the natural course of an illness. I was a rather rough and tumble kid, so I had my share of broken bones (left arm twice, right arm once, right leg once, right collar bone once, various fingers and toes, fractured skull once, the nose and ribs too many times to count), and she would actually try to heal them by the laying of hands. Sometimes she claimed the spirit of god would help her heal me, other times she would also claim she could do it because she was Native American. Of course, we'd end up driving to the nearest doctor to get the bones reset and either splinted or put in a cast. She would also try this when I got a severe sunburn, which happens a lot when you haul hay for a summer job. She would claim to be drawing the pain out of me into herself. After a few minutes of being very uncomfortable, I would look at her smile, and lie my head off, telling her I felt great. As soon as I could get away, I would slather on the aloe vera gel to ease my misery, as well as raid the liquor cabinet and for the next couple of weeks, no one in the family would see me without a shirt on. Both of my parents wore copper bracelets to help with their various aches and pains, and as much as I hate to admit it, I did too. I never personally noticed any kind of improvement, but I thought it looked nice. In the late 90's, they'd moved on to magnetic bracelets to help with circulation and other problems. By this time, I'd already looking into things in a more proper, scientific manner, so I've never worn one, though I have been given several of the things. They don't look as nice as the old copper bracelets, though.
My grandfather was the one that initially exposed me to dowsing. For those that don't know, this is an old practice where you take either brass or wooden rods and use them to locate metals, oil, or water. Grandpa would take me out when he was hired by his neighbors to help them locate water so they could put in a new well. He would walk around with a forked willow stick, and when the tip would suddenly drop down, that's where he would tell them to dig. In high school, I learned that much of Oklahoma sits on top of a major aquifer, and if you dig down about 65-70 feet, you're more than likely to hit water) I later learned about the idiomotor effect, which is basically an uncontrolled muscle movement. I will admit that I have witched water wells for people, mostly to help earn some money to pay the bills. After college, and learning about the idiomotor effect, I have quit doing it, even though on rare occasion, I still have people ask me if I would come out and dowse for water. At $200 a pop, it can be pretty tempting. He's also the one that initially told me about Bigfoot and other local monster stories, which I initially took as the truth. Later, as I looked more into these, I realized the improbability of creatures like this existing.
As I've talked about previously, my wife is the one that introduced me to the larger skeptical community. It started with podcasts like the Skeptics Guide to the Universe and Skeptoid, and later on the Geologic Podcast, Herd Mentality, and a lot of history and science podcasts. I also began reading skeptical and science blogs and articles. I then began this blog, and began looking for skeptical groups in Oklahoma.
In 39 years, I've gone from a gullible child, to a full blown conspiracy theory believer, to carefully walking the very fine line between being a cynic and being a critical thinker. It hasn't been an easy journey, and I'm no where near the end (I hope), but it has definitely been worth it.
Until next time, just take it easy, and have fun, but always be skeptical.
The Skeptical Okie.
Wednesday, July 30, 2014
Now taking requests. Please comment.
I'm still around folks, just trying to make a living, so unfortunately, the blog had to be put on the backburner for a bit. I do have a question for anyone that is still reading this. What topics are YOU interested in? Cryptozoology, conspiracy theories, alternative medicine, urban legends, mythology, or something I've missed? Let me know and I'll start researching and writing. I've got so many ideas that they are just jumbling up and I don't know where to start, so I'm asking for your help. Let me know what areas you're interested in, and I'll start covering them. Thanks, and until next time, be good, be skeptical, and be rational.
Skeptical Okie
Skeptical Okie
Tuesday, July 8, 2014
Cured by vibrating jewelry?
Hey folks, how have you been. Yes, I'm still alive, just been very busy with work, and family. The list of things I want to talk about has grown to the point I'm having to cull a few items because everyone else has already covered them pretty thoroughly. I do have a topic today that falls under the banner of Project Bullshit! What I want to talk about today are the:
Tuning Element Bracelets TM (dun dun dunnnnn). (The story is a bit long, so if you want, skip down to the claims and background.)
During a local county fair, I saw this booth displaying a lot of bracelets. It had a very nice background, a pretty display case, and was manned by an elderly couple. I saw this booth for 3 days straight. (I'm not a fair junkie, I was helping my wife with her civic group booth.) By the last day of the fair, I had probably seen 50-75 people talk to these folks, and at least half of them bought things. I went over there and took one of their brochures and looked it over. (I'll go into the details of the pamphlet later) The older gentleman saw me walking around and actually called me over to him. Curious as always, I went to see what he was about. He looked me in the eye and asked if I occasionally have pain in my knees, mainly my left. I answered honestly and told him yes I do. In my head, I was thinking, "Great, he's going to cold read me. This could be fun." Full disclosure, about 2 years ago, I broke my kneecap and femur in a bovine related accident (not like that!), and I've had problems and pain since then with my left knee, including a mild to severe limp. I had been helping my wife with her booth, which was next to the "healing bracelets" booth, for the last 3 days, and my looks are a bit distinctive, so the people had plenty of opportunities to witness me limping around. The fellow that ran the booth sat me down in a surprisingly comfortable chair and began his sales pitch. He told me that both he and his wife suffered from arthritis pain for years until they discovered these bracelets. They were so impressed with them that they became salespeople for the company. I had noticed the woman wearing one, and I realized while talking to him that his watchband was actually one of these bracelets. (I'm not going to include any images because the manufacturer wouldn't give me permission by the time I published this.) These bracelets are "vibrationally harmonized with the Earth" to help with healing. When I asked him what the rate of vibration was, he looked at me and informed me that he wasn't completely sure (honesty right off the bat? Wow!) and even if he knew, it was proprietary information. I did try to find out what the Earths frequency is supposed to be, and most of what I was able to find comes from New Age sites, so they were full of word salad, so as of right now, I just have to saw I don't know. While I was sitting there and this purveyor of Woo was giving me anecdotes and testimonials, he had his wife open the case, pull out a rather attractive black metal bracelet, and he set it right above my knee. He informed me it would take about 10 minutes to begin to take effect. I was fine with this because, as I said, I'm a curious person, so we started talking about the properties of the bracelets. During this conversation, I noticed almost immediately that he was trying to get medical history from me by making statements like "Most people with knee problems have hip and back problems too." and "A lot of guys your age get muscle pain." I'm familiar enough with these tactics that I went along with them to see what he would do. And wouldn't you know it, he basically took the info I gave him and fed it back to me, saying this "scientifically balanced" bracelet could help with my problems. He also mentioned it could help with cancer, but because of the "damned" FDA, they can't actually say it will cure anything. (I'll discuss the actual claims in a bit.) I asked how the bracelets were harmonized with the Earth, how they stayed in this state, as well as asking if there was any documented evidence of efficacy. He informed me, once again that the entire process was proprietary, and the only evidence he could offer was more testimonials. I asked him what they were made from and he told me they were stainless steel. the ones that aren't silver are plated in other metals. I then asked about the prices. The cheap ones, the plain silver ones with no adornments cost about $75. The more elaborate ones, with the different coatings and laser engraved images, cost up to $300. I think I just blinked at him when he casually gave me the prices. About this time, he seemed to feel that the sales pitch wasn't working, so he went the friendly route. He began asking me about what I do for a living, if I have a wife and children, if I have any hobbies, etc. I told him I do animal control, as well as farm work for a living. Yes, I have a wife and child, at which point he asked me if she worked. I said yes, she's a bio-chemical researcher. The look on his face at this statement was odd enough, I had a hard time not laughing. He then asked me about my hobbies. I said reading, writing a blog, outdoor activities, and I'm part of a skeptical group. As soon as I said this, the 10 minutes suddenly finished. (It was actually closer to 20) He removed the bracelet and asked if I had any pain. I told him honestly no at that moment. He then had me stand up. Upon doing so, my knee popped loudly enough to be heard from several feet away ( a normal occurrence if I've been sitting or standing for a while.) He told me that sometimes it takes a while for the effect to be noticeable, and I should go ahead and buy one. I told him I'd have to talk to my wife first, and I left thinking I need to write about this.
The Claims:
The overall claim of this particular type of product is that can help "bring our body back to it's natural frequency" The manufacturer states that electromagnetic radiation disrupts our bodies natural frequency, which in turn pulls the protons in our cells out of their natural alignment and causes cellular dysfunction. (Waiter, I'll have the word salad with the house dressing, thank you.) The brochure says that the bracelet will realign the protons so they spin or resonate in harmony. It also claims that our "electronic technology" (and I have no idea why they have that in quotation marks) has hidden "pollutants" (More quotation marks) and our bodies absorb these. Care to guess the pollutants that the maker of these bracelets is concerned about? EMF's(Electrical magnetic fields) and ELF's (Extremely low frequencies). According to the brochure, these are emitted from different tech, and when the body gets hit by these waves, to paraphrase them,it just completely fu!&s us up. The top of the paper has the words Got Pain? in 21/2 inch letters, with the following conditions:
Under this, it has Need help with? followed by:
And of course at the bottom, it has the usual disclaimers about going to your doctor for health issues, this product has not been evaluated by the FDA, and results may vary. As someone with knee pain and ADHD, if one product could take care of these, I would be overjoyed. The problem is, to quote the Sawbones podcast, "If it sounds like a cure-all, it cures nothing". A lot of the various pains that they list have to do with joints or muscular damage, while balance is controlled by the inner ear, and ADHD is a neurological issue. No single thing can treat three very different systems.
How it works:
This product is supposed to work based on the principles of harmonic balance. According to their website,(and no, I'm not going to link to them) these ideas were created by Georges Lakhovsky and W.O Schumann. Lakhovsky created a machine called the Multi Wave Oscillator in the 30's and Schumann is know for Schumann Frequencies. Both of these men's ideas are popular in alternative medicine as a means to treat people of various problems. They both have too much history to go into here. The companies description of what their product does is overly vague and almost magical sounding. The problems it is supposed to treat, as well as their supposed initial causes are extremely similar to the T-28 3G/4G Whole House Protection device I wrote about a while back. It's supposed to protect you from EMF's and ELF's, which in turn are supposed to slowly damage every part of your body at the cellular level. Every description of how this item works is so vague I can't tell if they are talking about a bracelet or pasta salad. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's supposed to work by magic and wishful thinking. And your money.
The Problems:
The main problem with this product, much like the infamous Power Band and the T-28 3G/4G Whole House Protection device, is that they just DO NOT WORK! No one item can have a beneficial effect on every system (skeletal, nervous, muscular, cardiovascular, respiratory, etc.) at once. If you look at actual medication, or medical therapies, while they have a beneficial effect on the given system that they treat, if you look at the possible side effects, they normally effect other systems that have a direct effect on each other.. Wearing something on your wrist will not have a effect on ADHD, unless it's shiny and can actually help you keep your focus. The same product won't help with a cold and give you a better golf average. Another problem is how the hell do they know what frequency the human body is supposed to have, and who determined what is in harmony with the planet? Do things in nature have the same frequencies? Does pumice vibrate at the same rate as uranium, and does that vibrate at the same rate as wood?
Conclusion:
Do I really need to say it? Okay, you asked for it, so I'm duty bound to do it. This bracelet, while it actually is good looking, and I wouldn't mind wearing one for aesthetic reasons, it doesn't treat anything except for a heavy wallet or purse. A piece of metal on any part of your body, unless it's a brace for a joint or back, won't treat a single medical issue, let alone everything under the sun. When you consider that in 3 days I saw 30-40 people buying these at a minimum of $75 each, and I found very similar looking items at Wal Mart for $10 the next day, someone made out like a bandit. Granted, I don't know the companies business model, and I'm not 100% positive what the markup is on these, but it's probably still a good chunk of money.
Until next time, Be Good, Be Skeptical, and Be sure you turned the stove off before you leave.
The Skeptical Okie
Tuning Element Bracelets TM (dun dun dunnnnn). (The story is a bit long, so if you want, skip down to the claims and background.)
During a local county fair, I saw this booth displaying a lot of bracelets. It had a very nice background, a pretty display case, and was manned by an elderly couple. I saw this booth for 3 days straight. (I'm not a fair junkie, I was helping my wife with her civic group booth.) By the last day of the fair, I had probably seen 50-75 people talk to these folks, and at least half of them bought things. I went over there and took one of their brochures and looked it over. (I'll go into the details of the pamphlet later) The older gentleman saw me walking around and actually called me over to him. Curious as always, I went to see what he was about. He looked me in the eye and asked if I occasionally have pain in my knees, mainly my left. I answered honestly and told him yes I do. In my head, I was thinking, "Great, he's going to cold read me. This could be fun." Full disclosure, about 2 years ago, I broke my kneecap and femur in a bovine related accident (not like that!), and I've had problems and pain since then with my left knee, including a mild to severe limp. I had been helping my wife with her booth, which was next to the "healing bracelets" booth, for the last 3 days, and my looks are a bit distinctive, so the people had plenty of opportunities to witness me limping around. The fellow that ran the booth sat me down in a surprisingly comfortable chair and began his sales pitch. He told me that both he and his wife suffered from arthritis pain for years until they discovered these bracelets. They were so impressed with them that they became salespeople for the company. I had noticed the woman wearing one, and I realized while talking to him that his watchband was actually one of these bracelets. (I'm not going to include any images because the manufacturer wouldn't give me permission by the time I published this.) These bracelets are "vibrationally harmonized with the Earth" to help with healing. When I asked him what the rate of vibration was, he looked at me and informed me that he wasn't completely sure (honesty right off the bat? Wow!) and even if he knew, it was proprietary information. I did try to find out what the Earths frequency is supposed to be, and most of what I was able to find comes from New Age sites, so they were full of word salad, so as of right now, I just have to saw I don't know. While I was sitting there and this purveyor of Woo was giving me anecdotes and testimonials, he had his wife open the case, pull out a rather attractive black metal bracelet, and he set it right above my knee. He informed me it would take about 10 minutes to begin to take effect. I was fine with this because, as I said, I'm a curious person, so we started talking about the properties of the bracelets. During this conversation, I noticed almost immediately that he was trying to get medical history from me by making statements like "Most people with knee problems have hip and back problems too." and "A lot of guys your age get muscle pain." I'm familiar enough with these tactics that I went along with them to see what he would do. And wouldn't you know it, he basically took the info I gave him and fed it back to me, saying this "scientifically balanced" bracelet could help with my problems. He also mentioned it could help with cancer, but because of the "damned" FDA, they can't actually say it will cure anything. (I'll discuss the actual claims in a bit.) I asked how the bracelets were harmonized with the Earth, how they stayed in this state, as well as asking if there was any documented evidence of efficacy. He informed me, once again that the entire process was proprietary, and the only evidence he could offer was more testimonials. I asked him what they were made from and he told me they were stainless steel. the ones that aren't silver are plated in other metals. I then asked about the prices. The cheap ones, the plain silver ones with no adornments cost about $75. The more elaborate ones, with the different coatings and laser engraved images, cost up to $300. I think I just blinked at him when he casually gave me the prices. About this time, he seemed to feel that the sales pitch wasn't working, so he went the friendly route. He began asking me about what I do for a living, if I have a wife and children, if I have any hobbies, etc. I told him I do animal control, as well as farm work for a living. Yes, I have a wife and child, at which point he asked me if she worked. I said yes, she's a bio-chemical researcher. The look on his face at this statement was odd enough, I had a hard time not laughing. He then asked me about my hobbies. I said reading, writing a blog, outdoor activities, and I'm part of a skeptical group. As soon as I said this, the 10 minutes suddenly finished. (It was actually closer to 20) He removed the bracelet and asked if I had any pain. I told him honestly no at that moment. He then had me stand up. Upon doing so, my knee popped loudly enough to be heard from several feet away ( a normal occurrence if I've been sitting or standing for a while.) He told me that sometimes it takes a while for the effect to be noticeable, and I should go ahead and buy one. I told him I'd have to talk to my wife first, and I left thinking I need to write about this.
The Claims:
The overall claim of this particular type of product is that can help "bring our body back to it's natural frequency" The manufacturer states that electromagnetic radiation disrupts our bodies natural frequency, which in turn pulls the protons in our cells out of their natural alignment and causes cellular dysfunction. (Waiter, I'll have the word salad with the house dressing, thank you.) The brochure says that the bracelet will realign the protons so they spin or resonate in harmony. It also claims that our "electronic technology" (and I have no idea why they have that in quotation marks) has hidden "pollutants" (More quotation marks) and our bodies absorb these. Care to guess the pollutants that the maker of these bracelets is concerned about? EMF's(Electrical magnetic fields) and ELF's (Extremely low frequencies). According to the brochure, these are emitted from different tech, and when the body gets hit by these waves, to paraphrase them,it just completely fu!&s us up. The top of the paper has the words Got Pain? in 21/2 inch letters, with the following conditions:
- Arthtitis
- Carpal Tunnel
- Muscular Pain
- Stress
- Hip Pain
- Knee Pain
- Back Pain
- Insomnia
- Colds/Sickness
- ADD/ADHD
- Joint Pain
- And many More
Under this, it has Need help with? followed by:
- Quality of Sleep
- Range of Motion
- Better Athletic Abilities
- Balance
- Flexibility
- Less Snoring
- Coordination
- Better Golf Average
- Faster Recovery Time
- Strength
- Energy
- And Much More
And of course at the bottom, it has the usual disclaimers about going to your doctor for health issues, this product has not been evaluated by the FDA, and results may vary. As someone with knee pain and ADHD, if one product could take care of these, I would be overjoyed. The problem is, to quote the Sawbones podcast, "If it sounds like a cure-all, it cures nothing". A lot of the various pains that they list have to do with joints or muscular damage, while balance is controlled by the inner ear, and ADHD is a neurological issue. No single thing can treat three very different systems.
How it works:
This product is supposed to work based on the principles of harmonic balance. According to their website,(and no, I'm not going to link to them) these ideas were created by Georges Lakhovsky and W.O Schumann. Lakhovsky created a machine called the Multi Wave Oscillator in the 30's and Schumann is know for Schumann Frequencies. Both of these men's ideas are popular in alternative medicine as a means to treat people of various problems. They both have too much history to go into here. The companies description of what their product does is overly vague and almost magical sounding. The problems it is supposed to treat, as well as their supposed initial causes are extremely similar to the T-28 3G/4G Whole House Protection device I wrote about a while back. It's supposed to protect you from EMF's and ELF's, which in turn are supposed to slowly damage every part of your body at the cellular level. Every description of how this item works is so vague I can't tell if they are talking about a bracelet or pasta salad. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's supposed to work by magic and wishful thinking. And your money.
The Problems:
The main problem with this product, much like the infamous Power Band and the T-28 3G/4G Whole House Protection device, is that they just DO NOT WORK! No one item can have a beneficial effect on every system (skeletal, nervous, muscular, cardiovascular, respiratory, etc.) at once. If you look at actual medication, or medical therapies, while they have a beneficial effect on the given system that they treat, if you look at the possible side effects, they normally effect other systems that have a direct effect on each other.. Wearing something on your wrist will not have a effect on ADHD, unless it's shiny and can actually help you keep your focus. The same product won't help with a cold and give you a better golf average. Another problem is how the hell do they know what frequency the human body is supposed to have, and who determined what is in harmony with the planet? Do things in nature have the same frequencies? Does pumice vibrate at the same rate as uranium, and does that vibrate at the same rate as wood?
Conclusion:
Do I really need to say it? Okay, you asked for it, so I'm duty bound to do it. This bracelet, while it actually is good looking, and I wouldn't mind wearing one for aesthetic reasons, it doesn't treat anything except for a heavy wallet or purse. A piece of metal on any part of your body, unless it's a brace for a joint or back, won't treat a single medical issue, let alone everything under the sun. When you consider that in 3 days I saw 30-40 people buying these at a minimum of $75 each, and I found very similar looking items at Wal Mart for $10 the next day, someone made out like a bandit. Granted, I don't know the companies business model, and I'm not 100% positive what the markup is on these, but it's probably still a good chunk of money.
Until next time, Be Good, Be Skeptical, and Be sure you turned the stove off before you leave.
The Skeptical Okie
Tuesday, March 18, 2014
Margaret Sanger, a lesson in research and picking your battles.
This week, I'm just going to jump straight into the topic because it has got me so pissed off. Lately, I've been seeing a certain picture popping up on my Facebook feed. I'm sure some of you have probably seen this one too. It's:

I have made the mistake a few times of pointing out that the quote on the picture is taken completely out of context from a book that Margaret Sanger wrote in 1922. The first time I did, someone had mentioned what a horrible person she was for wanting to kill babies. There were also a few comparisons to Hitler in the thread. I did a little looking, mostly in Wikipedia and WikiQuote. This quote comes from chapter 2 of her book "Woman and the New Race". I found that she was talking about extremely large families where the infant mortality rate and the mothers chance of dying in childbirth increases with every child. In 1922, the mortality rate among the youngest children of large families was as high as 70%. Many times, the children died from starvation, typhoid ,or tuberculosis. I also pointed out that Margaret Sanger was against abortion. She promoted contraceptive use to prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions. After making my point, the person that posted it said she hadn't realized this. She just wanted to show what a wicked person Sanger was and the next day, we had a calm, rational, and informative talk (in real life no less) about the topic.
The next time I saw this, I simply said read the Wikipedia article or the Snopes article on it and I was thanked by several people.(Rationality for the Win!)
The most recent appearance of this horrible amalgamation of photograph and quote, everyone in the comment thread was screaming (a lot of them seemed to have gotten their Caps Lock stuck) about how she was a racist. I simply pointed out that the quote is taken out of context, and in fact, she helped set up the first womens health clinic in Harlem. Then it got strange. One person said he could prove she was a racist, as he had been in the Anti-abortion movement for nearly 40 years, and yet he offered no proof. The next one pointed out that she was a eugenicist, and accused me of basically being insensitive. At this point I realized that no matter what I said, all it was going to do was incite a flame war. I don't have time for that crap. All I tried to do was point out that an organization was taking one sentence from one book she wrote nearly 100 years ago and are using it in their marketing campaign. If you look hard enough, you can pull the same damn stunt with Gandhi, Mother Theresa, or even your own parents. I'll admit, she did believe in eugenics,and so did Winston Chuchill, Theodore Roosevelt, John H. Kellogg, Alexander Graham Bell, and George Bernard Shaw. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Supporters_and_critics and en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States. ) The fact that most of the people seem to be missing is that in 1922, eugenics, which is essentially a human breeding program to improve the species, was a popular idea. In fact, in the United States, there were 32 states with eugenic programs for criminals and people with mental and/or physical disabilities. North Carolina didn't end theirs until 1977 and Oregon performed their last mandatory sterilization in 1981.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#United_States and en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States. ) Concerning the claims of racism, while she did view African Americans to be inferior, she did work with W.E. B.Du Bois to set up the first womens health clinic in Harlem. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger )
I found all this info in about 2 minutes, and yes, a lot of it does come from Wikipedia. There are more "Sanger is evil" articles than there are "Sanger was a normal early 20th century woman" articles, but with a bit of looking, I was also able to find relatively unbiased biographies of her and corroborate them with the Wikipedia article, which also has links to the articles external sources. She's not an angel, but she's not some spawn of hell either. She was simply a woman that was doing what she could to help other women during a period of our history when what we consider strange ideas about race and sexuality were considered normal.
By todays morality, and yes, morality does change, she would be viewed as a bigoted, racist woman. However, when you put the quote in the picture into context with the time it was written in, her views were the norm. What this organization, the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) is trying to do is to apply the morals of 2014 to a statement from 1922. It doesn't work. As people and cultures change, so does the moral fabric of society. 20 years ago, homosexual men were either a joke or plot device in movies and television shows. Now they are just another character. In 1968, on the episode titled "Plato's Stepchildren" Captain James T. Kirk kissed Lt. Uhura. The day before it aired, an interracial kiss was unthinkable. Now, most people don't really notice. You can not apply something as malleable as morals to events that happened in the past. The farther back the event occurred, the less that present day morals can be applied.
And by the way, the ACLJ, from what I can determine looking at their website, is a christian law group that views freedom of religion and freedom of speech as inalienable, god given rights. (Their words, not mine) So of course they would be anti abortion. Some of the questions on their homepage are "Bible study in the workplace" (not really phrased as a question, is it?), and "Religious groups denied public access". Under most popular are such pleasant titles as "Stop funding the United nations" and, wait for it...."Stopping abortion, Ending Planned Parenthoods Taxpayer Funds". Yep, an unbiased legal defense organization.
I do try and take advantage of every teaching moment I can, but I also have realized recently that I have to pick my battles more carefully. The people that will happily butcher and warp the legacy of a historical figure and the people that believe in their cause with every fiber of their being, are not going to be convinced by any facts that you present to them. But, if they were to put as much energy and time into looking at the claims they are making (and yes, even if you just re post something on Facebook, you are making a claim, unless you have a disclaimer) as they do spouting their vitriolic drivel, then maybe they would be able to build a more solid foundation for their arguments.
Thank you for joining me on this little trip through my mind and what become an almost daily occurrence. Until next time, Be Good, Be Reasonable, and be sure to wash behind your ears.
The Skeptical Okie
Monday, February 24, 2014
WTF folk medicine? (Rant warning)
Hey kiddos, how has everyone been the last few weeks? It's been ....interesting to say the least. Chaos at work, at home, at the Skeptical Okie headquarters, and everywhere in between. There have been some interesting things in the world of science, which have been covered by everybody. So once again, this is going to be a rant at dangerous, misguided beliefs.
This is a bit off topic, but I highly recommend listening to the Monster Talk podcast. Blake Smith and his guests do a good job discussing various cryptids and the likelihood of their existence. I heartily endorse Monster Talk and urge anyone interested in Nessie, Bigfoot, Chupacabra, Mothman, and any other cryptids to go and give them a listen, You won't be disappointed. (Just let them know I sent you.)
Todays topic once again is based loosely on my work, and it relates back to several previous posts. I'm talking about, as you can surmise from the title, folk medicine. What brought this on is an encounter at my place of employment. As I've said in the past, I work in animal welfare for a largish city. As I was walking through the dog kennels, I saw an older woman looking intently at a young pup in one of the pens. I walked up and began talking to her and at some point canine diseases come up. She stated that her daughters dog had parvo and was nearly dead. She gave it a wormer, and it was better the next day. I looked at her and, thinking to use this as a teaching moment, told her that wormer only works on internal parasites, not a virus like parvo. It will get rid of roundworms, tapeworms, or pinworms, depending on the type of wormer used. Parvo is a virus, so it has to be treated symptomatically. She looked at me and said "Nope, it was parvo, I just know it, and the wormer worked, just like always. Just as a side note, there are some parasite infestations that can cause symptoms similar to parvo, which is why it's important to take your animal to the vet anytime it begins to act ill. The woman then followed that amazing cure with another one. She said her 12 year old German Shepherd had had distemper, and been suffering from it for about 5 days. She put 1 drop of Blue-in in its water and the next day, it was cured. Surely everyone from the 80's remembers Blue -in?

Image from Google Images
When I asked her what her vet had said about her dog, she said she doesn't go to a vet, because the old ways work the best. (Can you say Argument from Antiquity? I knew you could.) If her dog actually had distemper, blue clothing dye wouldn't have had any effect. Once again, distemper is a virus and needs to be treated symptomatically. And according to the vet and several vet techs and assistants at the facility, even if an animal recovers from distemper, it normally has neurological damage due to the extreme high fever. What this woman's dog more than likely, had was either a sinus infection or Bordetella, also called Kennel Cough. She probably "medicated" the dog as the disease was finishing it's natural course, and of course it seemed he was cured. (Correlation does not equal causation)
Many folk medicines tend to fall under naturopathy. Natural cures, herbal medicines, and the like. They also tend to heavily rely on off label uses of various products. This just means they aren't using the item as directed. An anecdotal example is from when I was young. I found out the hard way I am allergic to Neosporin, so my families idea was to use Corona (not the beer) on my various injuries.

Image from Google Images
On the label, it says "Not for use on humans" Makes me wonder what my parents thought I was? Maybe that's why I was always called a Hobbit growing up. But I digress. Another one is when my brother, who was about 5, caught chicken pox. First, he was intentionally exposed, which was a practice that was quickly falling out of favor at the time. Then he was put into a scalding hot bath and given a shot of Jack Daniels whiskey (that is not a typo) to speed the process up. I'm surprised, looking back, that any of us survived childhood.
There are almost as many folk cures as there are people and diseases combined. Some are fairly benign, such as chicken soup or orange juice for a cold. Some are dangerous, like alcohol to a small child to speed up chicken pox. Some are deadly, like azarcon, which is a powder that contains high levels of lead some people give to their children for stomach aches. There are just too many variations, not only based on culture, but also geography, to even start listing them. However, one thing most of them have in common is that they are generally passed down through the family or culture and have been used for decades, if not centuries. Another thing they have in common is that if they were effective, then they have been tested and the active ingredients isolated, the effectiveness greatly improved, and are now manufactured by pharmaceutical companies.
As I mentioned in the example of the woman with the 2 dogs, there are also many, many folk cures used on animals. The ones that come immediately to mind involve garlic and tobacco and motor oil. If a dog were bred by an undesirable male, then some of the old timers would shove an entire clove of garlic down the dogs throat to induce an abortion. Many old cowboys would feed their horses a cigarette to worm them. As I mentioned in my previous post, people used to pour motor oil on dogs to treat them for mange. Sevin dust sprinkled directly on the animal was a treatment/preventative for a variety of external parasites.
One of the major problems with using folk medicine is that, much like homeopathy, naturopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, and anything else that falls under the Supplement, Complimentary, and Alternative Medicine (S.C.A.M. Thank you Mark Crislip) umbrella, is that no actual physician is ever consulted. This means that there is no diagnosis. Many diseases, from the minor to the fatal, have symptoms that are very similar, generally being "flu-like". This means that while they may think they are treating something relatively minor, say a chest cold, the victim...sorry, I meant patient, could actually have the early stages of tuberculosis. The people that promote and practice this crap are what used to be called hedge doctors. They know a little bit about herbs and a little about diseases, not from education, but from their personal experience or family stories, and put 1 and 1 together and get 3. Many times, in my line of work, I have heard someone say that their animal had parvo, or distemper, or they were poisoned and they cured them with some asinine treatment. When I ask them what their vet said, they almost always say they didn't talk to a vet. They talked to the guy down the street. He has dogs, so he knows what he's talking about. By that logic, because I have a microwave, I should be able to diagnose and treat radiation poisoning. Another issue that many people in the skeptical community will find is that when talking with these people, or at least get them to look at the evidence, they will always fall back on the argument from antiquity, the natural fallacy, and sometimes they will even throw a conspiracy theory in for good measure. My favorite of the last category is when people refuse to get their animal vaccinated for rabies, or even microchipped because they think the government will use it to track them. Fun times.
Like I said at the beginning, this one is more of a rant than a researched post, mostly because I have covered most of this in one form or another previously. I just thought I would throw it out there for those that are new to the skeptical community as an example of some of the misguided, pseudo-scientific bullshit you will run into on an almost daily basis.
I am having problems finding anyone that is willing to talk to me about the Sea Band that was suggested during my call for Woo products. I still plan on discussing this product, but I don't know when I will be able to write it. If anyone out there is a neurologist, neurosurgeon, or at this point, if you're neurotic, leave a comment. I will give you their responses to my questions and allow you to respond in kind. I'm also working on a healing bracelet that has been harmonically synchronized with the Earth's own vibrational field (Urg, I think I had an anurism talking to the guy.)
Until next time, Be good, Be fair, and Be skeptical.
The Skeptical Okie
This is a bit off topic, but I highly recommend listening to the Monster Talk podcast. Blake Smith and his guests do a good job discussing various cryptids and the likelihood of their existence. I heartily endorse Monster Talk and urge anyone interested in Nessie, Bigfoot, Chupacabra, Mothman, and any other cryptids to go and give them a listen, You won't be disappointed. (Just let them know I sent you.)
Todays topic once again is based loosely on my work, and it relates back to several previous posts. I'm talking about, as you can surmise from the title, folk medicine. What brought this on is an encounter at my place of employment. As I've said in the past, I work in animal welfare for a largish city. As I was walking through the dog kennels, I saw an older woman looking intently at a young pup in one of the pens. I walked up and began talking to her and at some point canine diseases come up. She stated that her daughters dog had parvo and was nearly dead. She gave it a wormer, and it was better the next day. I looked at her and, thinking to use this as a teaching moment, told her that wormer only works on internal parasites, not a virus like parvo. It will get rid of roundworms, tapeworms, or pinworms, depending on the type of wormer used. Parvo is a virus, so it has to be treated symptomatically. She looked at me and said "Nope, it was parvo, I just know it, and the wormer worked, just like always. Just as a side note, there are some parasite infestations that can cause symptoms similar to parvo, which is why it's important to take your animal to the vet anytime it begins to act ill. The woman then followed that amazing cure with another one. She said her 12 year old German Shepherd had had distemper, and been suffering from it for about 5 days. She put 1 drop of Blue-in in its water and the next day, it was cured. Surely everyone from the 80's remembers Blue -in?
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When I asked her what her vet had said about her dog, she said she doesn't go to a vet, because the old ways work the best. (Can you say Argument from Antiquity? I knew you could.) If her dog actually had distemper, blue clothing dye wouldn't have had any effect. Once again, distemper is a virus and needs to be treated symptomatically. And according to the vet and several vet techs and assistants at the facility, even if an animal recovers from distemper, it normally has neurological damage due to the extreme high fever. What this woman's dog more than likely, had was either a sinus infection or Bordetella, also called Kennel Cough. She probably "medicated" the dog as the disease was finishing it's natural course, and of course it seemed he was cured. (Correlation does not equal causation)
Many folk medicines tend to fall under naturopathy. Natural cures, herbal medicines, and the like. They also tend to heavily rely on off label uses of various products. This just means they aren't using the item as directed. An anecdotal example is from when I was young. I found out the hard way I am allergic to Neosporin, so my families idea was to use Corona (not the beer) on my various injuries.
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On the label, it says "Not for use on humans" Makes me wonder what my parents thought I was? Maybe that's why I was always called a Hobbit growing up. But I digress. Another one is when my brother, who was about 5, caught chicken pox. First, he was intentionally exposed, which was a practice that was quickly falling out of favor at the time. Then he was put into a scalding hot bath and given a shot of Jack Daniels whiskey (that is not a typo) to speed the process up. I'm surprised, looking back, that any of us survived childhood.
There are almost as many folk cures as there are people and diseases combined. Some are fairly benign, such as chicken soup or orange juice for a cold. Some are dangerous, like alcohol to a small child to speed up chicken pox. Some are deadly, like azarcon, which is a powder that contains high levels of lead some people give to their children for stomach aches. There are just too many variations, not only based on culture, but also geography, to even start listing them. However, one thing most of them have in common is that they are generally passed down through the family or culture and have been used for decades, if not centuries. Another thing they have in common is that if they were effective, then they have been tested and the active ingredients isolated, the effectiveness greatly improved, and are now manufactured by pharmaceutical companies.
As I mentioned in the example of the woman with the 2 dogs, there are also many, many folk cures used on animals. The ones that come immediately to mind involve garlic and tobacco and motor oil. If a dog were bred by an undesirable male, then some of the old timers would shove an entire clove of garlic down the dogs throat to induce an abortion. Many old cowboys would feed their horses a cigarette to worm them. As I mentioned in my previous post, people used to pour motor oil on dogs to treat them for mange. Sevin dust sprinkled directly on the animal was a treatment/preventative for a variety of external parasites.
One of the major problems with using folk medicine is that, much like homeopathy, naturopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, and anything else that falls under the Supplement, Complimentary, and Alternative Medicine (S.C.A.M. Thank you Mark Crislip) umbrella, is that no actual physician is ever consulted. This means that there is no diagnosis. Many diseases, from the minor to the fatal, have symptoms that are very similar, generally being "flu-like". This means that while they may think they are treating something relatively minor, say a chest cold, the victim...sorry, I meant patient, could actually have the early stages of tuberculosis. The people that promote and practice this crap are what used to be called hedge doctors. They know a little bit about herbs and a little about diseases, not from education, but from their personal experience or family stories, and put 1 and 1 together and get 3. Many times, in my line of work, I have heard someone say that their animal had parvo, or distemper, or they were poisoned and they cured them with some asinine treatment. When I ask them what their vet said, they almost always say they didn't talk to a vet. They talked to the guy down the street. He has dogs, so he knows what he's talking about. By that logic, because I have a microwave, I should be able to diagnose and treat radiation poisoning. Another issue that many people in the skeptical community will find is that when talking with these people, or at least get them to look at the evidence, they will always fall back on the argument from antiquity, the natural fallacy, and sometimes they will even throw a conspiracy theory in for good measure. My favorite of the last category is when people refuse to get their animal vaccinated for rabies, or even microchipped because they think the government will use it to track them. Fun times.
Like I said at the beginning, this one is more of a rant than a researched post, mostly because I have covered most of this in one form or another previously. I just thought I would throw it out there for those that are new to the skeptical community as an example of some of the misguided, pseudo-scientific bullshit you will run into on an almost daily basis.
I am having problems finding anyone that is willing to talk to me about the Sea Band that was suggested during my call for Woo products. I still plan on discussing this product, but I don't know when I will be able to write it. If anyone out there is a neurologist, neurosurgeon, or at this point, if you're neurotic, leave a comment. I will give you their responses to my questions and allow you to respond in kind. I'm also working on a healing bracelet that has been harmonically synchronized with the Earth's own vibrational field (Urg, I think I had an anurism talking to the guy.)
Until next time, Be good, Be fair, and Be skeptical.
The Skeptical Okie
Monday, February 10, 2014
WTF natural medicine?
How has everyone been? As usual, it's been hectic here at the Skeptical Okie headquarters, between the strange weather (thanks climate change), work (thanks needing to eat and pay bills), and just life in general (thanks?).
Now on to the main topic. A few days ago, during the course of my normal day at work, I had to take an animal to a local emergency veterinarian. While I was there waiting on them to determine the course of action for the kitten, one of the vet techs escorted a family back to see their dog, a schnauzer I believe. While two of them were talking to the schnauzer, the third one in the group, a rather elderly lady, began looking at the other animals in the recovery area. She noticed a couple of pups that were in essentially incubators. The vet came out and told the family what the schnauzer had been doing while in his care. Then the older woman asked what was wrong with the pups. The vet informed her that they had a virus, which had already killed 2 other litters that morning. (I don't know what they had because the vet never said) She looked at him and said "You need to go to a health food store and get some oregano oil. You rub it on their bellies and they'll absorb it. They'll be right as rain." The other 2 people with her were standing there, nodding their heads like it was common knowledge. The vet looked at the three of them and said that he didn't think it would work on a virus. She said to do it and he would see it would work. The vet sort of blinked, said okay, and went back to his office. The 3 folks were just saying he'll see, and the natural cures work the best. About this time, the vet tech that was working on the kitten I had taken in was looking at me sort of oddly, and she finally said "You want to say something, don't you?" Yes, I did, but I couldn't because it wasn't directly related to my job, and I need the paycheck. One thing I wanted to say was the vet blew a perfectly good teaching moment. Granted, it probably wasn't the first time he'd heard it, and he may have just given up. Secondly, I wanted to ask the 3 people, "If natural cures work the best, why is your dog at an emergency vet?"
Looking on the ever trustworthy interwebs for the efficacy of oregano oil, the first site I looked at states that it can be used to treat arthritis, allergies, and wounds, but nothing about viruses. The best sentence of the article says "Though there are no known side effects when using oregano on dogs, make sure to consult your vet immediately in case you encounter any problems." Then at the bottom of the page, it goes on to talk about a couple of other herbs that are good to use on dogs, including slippery elm, basil, milk thistle, and hawthorn. Another site only states that it will kill parasites, and yet a third says that it is "Antifungal, antiviral, anti-aging, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, antiparasitic, immune stimulant and antiseptic."(http://www.experience-essential-oils.com/benefits-of-oregano-oil.html). So feed your dog lasagna, it never needs to see a vet? The reason that this pissed me off, aside from the fact I really couldn't say anything to the owners, is that, like many people who rely on "natural cures and treatments" they wait until it's too late before seeking actual medical treatment.
When I was looking for the efficacy of oregano oil, and a few other "natural treatments", I kept running into the same websites, namely naturalnews.com, mercola.com, curingherbs.com, a lot of them using some variant of "wellness" "natural" or oregano in their page title. As soon as I see anything promoted by mercola or naturalnews, my skeptisense begins tingling. I have discussed these two several times in the past, and I think I'm just going to have to write an article on them, and several other people and start referring people back to that. Quick rule of thumb kiddos: When doing research on any medical treatment, if they claim something works, say oregano, or Antimonium crudum (no, that's not a Harry Potter spell) and strangely enough, why lookie there, a link to buy what they just said works! What a coincidence! Yeah right. The reason that there are links to buy whatever miracle cure you just read about is because it was an ad trying to entice you to buy whatever they're selling. While looking into this lovely bit of Woo, I did find 2 articles on the first page of Google (using the keywords: Efficacy of oregano oil for dogs) from sciencebasedpharmacy.com. The articles are Oil of Oregano: All anecdotes, no science and Oil of Oregano – No substitute for the pertussis vaccine. I couldn't find anything published through the World Health Organization. The CDC has about 3 pages of published material mentioning oregano. These seem to consist mostly of articles about rates of exposure, studies about the rates of CAM(complimentary and alternative medicine) used by different ethnic groups, and a cookbook. In Pubmeds, there are quite a few articles mentioning oregano, but they include ones concerning extending the shelf life of rainbow trout and the chemical components and character of oregano oil. Yes, there are some talking about it having antibacterial or anti-cancer traits, but I could only read the summary, not the entire article, nor can I find anywhere that these results have been reproduced. As far as I can tell, the main benefit to Oregano oil is to make a grilled piece of tuna taste even better.
I hope that my slightly ranty article shows that skepticism and critical thought aren't relative to only people, but can be helpful to the various animals that many of us share our lives with. When I was young, a common treatment for mange was to cover the dog with motor oil. Need to worm your dog or horse, feed them cigarettes (My grandfather insisted the Camel brand unfiltered worked best). Your female dog was bred by an undesirable male? Give her an entire clove of garlic (Just watch out if she tries to lick your face afterwards). After I got older, and learned a bit of science, I realized that not only were a lot of the hedge doctor cures I grew up with ineffective, but a lot of them were also dangerous. (I guess if the patient dies, you can consider them cured of the problem?) Now that I'm nearly 40, I'm mildly pissed, and a bit frightened that this crap is still being used. As I've said in the past, I work for animal welfare, and we often see animals come in that have been covered in oil or paint to "cure" skin issues, cinnamon or sevin dust put on the animal to prevent or kill parasites, and various other "treatments" that people will swear works, yet they are dropping them off at the shelter because the animal has either gotten worse or it died. I got particularly upset and argumentative with a woman that brought in several adult dogs, 2 litters of puppies, and 2 carriers of kittens and adult cats. The puppies had parvo, which without medical treatment, is fatal to dogs, the adults were emaciated due to a worm infestation combined with nursing the puppies, and the felines had a variety of illnesses. When I asked her how long they had been ill, she said a couple of months, and the puppies started showing signs of parvo the day before. I asked her why she hadn't taken them to a vet and she informed me she had. When asked what the vet told her to do, she said she didn't like the treatments suggested because they involved "harmful man made drugs". She finally found a naturopathic/homeopathic veterinarian (do they actually come in that flavor? WTF!) that prescribed activated charcoal for the parvo, and parsley for the worms. For the cats, the owner had several vials with cheap labels and fake latin sounding names hand written on them. I won't go into detail, but needless to say, I was asked to step back and go help someone in the back, and let the supervisors take care of it. On a side note, we had to euthanize everyone of those animals, as well as the others that she brought up later. She had more animals that she was treating for a variety of illness in a similar manner. As I said, Woo is dangerous, not only to humans, but to our fuzzy, furry, scaly, and feathered companions. So the next time you're tempted give your animal something that claims to be All Natural, or some form of a cure-all, do a little research, consult your veterinarian, and remember, cure-alls cure nothing.
As usual, feel free to leave a comment here. Until next time, Be good, Be polite, and stay warm!
The Skeptical Okie
Now on to the main topic. A few days ago, during the course of my normal day at work, I had to take an animal to a local emergency veterinarian. While I was there waiting on them to determine the course of action for the kitten, one of the vet techs escorted a family back to see their dog, a schnauzer I believe. While two of them were talking to the schnauzer, the third one in the group, a rather elderly lady, began looking at the other animals in the recovery area. She noticed a couple of pups that were in essentially incubators. The vet came out and told the family what the schnauzer had been doing while in his care. Then the older woman asked what was wrong with the pups. The vet informed her that they had a virus, which had already killed 2 other litters that morning. (I don't know what they had because the vet never said) She looked at him and said "You need to go to a health food store and get some oregano oil. You rub it on their bellies and they'll absorb it. They'll be right as rain." The other 2 people with her were standing there, nodding their heads like it was common knowledge. The vet looked at the three of them and said that he didn't think it would work on a virus. She said to do it and he would see it would work. The vet sort of blinked, said okay, and went back to his office. The 3 folks were just saying he'll see, and the natural cures work the best. About this time, the vet tech that was working on the kitten I had taken in was looking at me sort of oddly, and she finally said "You want to say something, don't you?" Yes, I did, but I couldn't because it wasn't directly related to my job, and I need the paycheck. One thing I wanted to say was the vet blew a perfectly good teaching moment. Granted, it probably wasn't the first time he'd heard it, and he may have just given up. Secondly, I wanted to ask the 3 people, "If natural cures work the best, why is your dog at an emergency vet?"
Looking on the ever trustworthy interwebs for the efficacy of oregano oil, the first site I looked at states that it can be used to treat arthritis, allergies, and wounds, but nothing about viruses. The best sentence of the article says "Though there are no known side effects when using oregano on dogs, make sure to consult your vet immediately in case you encounter any problems." Then at the bottom of the page, it goes on to talk about a couple of other herbs that are good to use on dogs, including slippery elm, basil, milk thistle, and hawthorn. Another site only states that it will kill parasites, and yet a third says that it is "Antifungal, antiviral, anti-aging, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, antiparasitic, immune stimulant and antiseptic."(http://www.experience-essential-oils.com/benefits-of-oregano-oil.html). So feed your dog lasagna, it never needs to see a vet? The reason that this pissed me off, aside from the fact I really couldn't say anything to the owners, is that, like many people who rely on "natural cures and treatments" they wait until it's too late before seeking actual medical treatment.
When I was looking for the efficacy of oregano oil, and a few other "natural treatments", I kept running into the same websites, namely naturalnews.com, mercola.com, curingherbs.com, a lot of them using some variant of "wellness" "natural" or oregano in their page title. As soon as I see anything promoted by mercola or naturalnews, my skeptisense begins tingling. I have discussed these two several times in the past, and I think I'm just going to have to write an article on them, and several other people and start referring people back to that. Quick rule of thumb kiddos: When doing research on any medical treatment, if they claim something works, say oregano, or Antimonium crudum (no, that's not a Harry Potter spell) and strangely enough, why lookie there, a link to buy what they just said works! What a coincidence! Yeah right. The reason that there are links to buy whatever miracle cure you just read about is because it was an ad trying to entice you to buy whatever they're selling. While looking into this lovely bit of Woo, I did find 2 articles on the first page of Google (using the keywords: Efficacy of oregano oil for dogs) from sciencebasedpharmacy.com. The articles are Oil of Oregano: All anecdotes, no science and Oil of Oregano – No substitute for the pertussis vaccine. I couldn't find anything published through the World Health Organization. The CDC has about 3 pages of published material mentioning oregano. These seem to consist mostly of articles about rates of exposure, studies about the rates of CAM(complimentary and alternative medicine) used by different ethnic groups, and a cookbook. In Pubmeds, there are quite a few articles mentioning oregano, but they include ones concerning extending the shelf life of rainbow trout and the chemical components and character of oregano oil. Yes, there are some talking about it having antibacterial or anti-cancer traits, but I could only read the summary, not the entire article, nor can I find anywhere that these results have been reproduced. As far as I can tell, the main benefit to Oregano oil is to make a grilled piece of tuna taste even better.
I hope that my slightly ranty article shows that skepticism and critical thought aren't relative to only people, but can be helpful to the various animals that many of us share our lives with. When I was young, a common treatment for mange was to cover the dog with motor oil. Need to worm your dog or horse, feed them cigarettes (My grandfather insisted the Camel brand unfiltered worked best). Your female dog was bred by an undesirable male? Give her an entire clove of garlic (Just watch out if she tries to lick your face afterwards). After I got older, and learned a bit of science, I realized that not only were a lot of the hedge doctor cures I grew up with ineffective, but a lot of them were also dangerous. (I guess if the patient dies, you can consider them cured of the problem?) Now that I'm nearly 40, I'm mildly pissed, and a bit frightened that this crap is still being used. As I've said in the past, I work for animal welfare, and we often see animals come in that have been covered in oil or paint to "cure" skin issues, cinnamon or sevin dust put on the animal to prevent or kill parasites, and various other "treatments" that people will swear works, yet they are dropping them off at the shelter because the animal has either gotten worse or it died. I got particularly upset and argumentative with a woman that brought in several adult dogs, 2 litters of puppies, and 2 carriers of kittens and adult cats. The puppies had parvo, which without medical treatment, is fatal to dogs, the adults were emaciated due to a worm infestation combined with nursing the puppies, and the felines had a variety of illnesses. When I asked her how long they had been ill, she said a couple of months, and the puppies started showing signs of parvo the day before. I asked her why she hadn't taken them to a vet and she informed me she had. When asked what the vet told her to do, she said she didn't like the treatments suggested because they involved "harmful man made drugs". She finally found a naturopathic/homeopathic veterinarian (do they actually come in that flavor? WTF!) that prescribed activated charcoal for the parvo, and parsley for the worms. For the cats, the owner had several vials with cheap labels and fake latin sounding names hand written on them. I won't go into detail, but needless to say, I was asked to step back and go help someone in the back, and let the supervisors take care of it. On a side note, we had to euthanize everyone of those animals, as well as the others that she brought up later. She had more animals that she was treating for a variety of illness in a similar manner. As I said, Woo is dangerous, not only to humans, but to our fuzzy, furry, scaly, and feathered companions. So the next time you're tempted give your animal something that claims to be All Natural, or some form of a cure-all, do a little research, consult your veterinarian, and remember, cure-alls cure nothing.
As usual, feel free to leave a comment here. Until next time, Be good, Be polite, and stay warm!
The Skeptical Okie
Tuesday, January 21, 2014
Sweet sweet death?
Hello kiddos, how has everyone been? I know it's been a while, and I sort of cheated in December by reposting my rant against the war on christmas, which I will rewrite and hopefully improve, but around the holidays it gets busy, even for us secular humanist atheist skeptic types. (I think that's enough labels for now.) There has been a lot that's happened in the world of science and skepticism. New exo-planets, Sylvia Browne and Duane Gish passing away, new biotech coming on line, Burzynski being investigated, again, (Yes!), and Kevin Trudeau going to jail (double Yes!!). And that's just the tip of the iceberg. So many things I want to talk about, and nowhere near enough time to research them. Unless I quit my job, find a way to make money blogging and doing skeptic work, and never leave the house. Or sleep. I'm open to suggestions, if anyone out there has any ideas of how to pull this off. So, for now, I'm going to reach into my critical thinking cap and pull out one of the many topics that I've seen pop up on FaceBook....And the winner is:
Aspartame
This is a subject that comes up pretty regularly in my news feed from people I know and after the article, there is the obligatory message that generally paraphrases into "OMG, I'm never putting that crap into my body again! Why are they trying to kill us?" Next to GMO's, chemtrails, and "miracle cures", this is one of the most common threads I see and that I am asked about. I know that others , including the SGU (skeptics guide to the universe) included, have already covered it, but because it constantly shows up, I've decided I'm going to take a look at it as well.
History
For those that don't know, aspartame is an artificial sweetener developed in 1965 by James Schlatter. Like a great many other discoveries, this one was accidental. Schlatter was actually working on an anti-ulcer medication when he licked his finger and discovered something sweet was on it. (I have always wondered who the hell licks their fingers in a chem lab?) Because it's a food additive, it's regulated by the FDA, so aspartame had to go through a lot of regulatory testing to prove it's safety before it could put into food products. In 1975, 10 years after its discovery, the FDA began reviewing studies on the safety of aspartame. In 1980, 15 years after Schlatter discovered it on his finger, it was approved for use in dry foods, and 3 years later, it could be used in carbonated drinks. Another 10 years, and in 1993, it was approved to be used in baked goods, other drinks, and candies. 3 years after that, all restrictions were lifted. That was 1996, 31 years after it's discovery. 31 years of research and studies by numerous groups and governmental agencies before it deemed safe enough to be used with no restrictions. Yet people claim it's going to basically destroy everyone that consumes it.
Initially, there were some problems, namely with the lab procedures used by G.E. Searle, the company that Schlatter worked for, during their testing. In 1984, the CDC (Center for Disease Control) studied reports of health issues that people believed were due to consumption of aspartame. You can read a synopsis of the study here. Basically what it says is that there is no real link between aspartame and the complaints people were making. Apsartame has also been studied by the WHO (World Health Organization), UK Food standards Agency, Health Canada, and the European Food Safety Authority, making it perhaps the most rigorously studied food stuff ever. It's approved for use in over 90 countries as of the writing of this article.
What is it?
Aspartame is actually a fairly simple compound made up of 2 amino acids. You remember amino acids, right? The basic building blocks of life? I am not a biochemist, so I am not going to attempt to describe their exact make up in great depth. Aspartame is made up of L-phenylalanine and L-aspartate. and it looks like this:
Like I said, it's a fairly simple compound. It is also 200 times sweeter than sugar, so a little goes a very long way. The main purpose of an amino acid is to build proteins. The arrangement of the amino acids determine the shape and function of the protein, and life is driven by proteins. Without proteins, there would be no structures such as skin and bone, hormones couldn't be transported through the body, and no antibodies to fight infections. And that is only the beginning of the list that proteins do. And it all starts with a few amino acids forming a chain. Aspartame rapidly breaks down in the digestive system into it's component parts, which are aspartic acid (an amino acid), phenylalanine (another amino acid), and methanol (methyl alcohol, a normal product of the metabolic process). And, yes, it does further break down into formaldehyde and formic acid, but before you get worried about that diet coke you've been sipping while reading this, it's fine. Production of fomaldehyde and formic acid are normal products of the break down of foods into usable components. As a matter of fact, formic acid is excreted faster than it's produced by consuming aspartame. And as for formaldehyde, there can be higher levels of it in your system after consuming all natural fruit juice!
Controversies
There have been controversies surrounding aspartame almost as long as it's been available. Some of these include that it's not natural, it causes various cancers, hyperactivity in children, problems with various organs, neurological problems, and on and on. Lately, Mercola has been calling it the most dangerous substance on the planet, never mind that there is more testing and research on aspartame than anything that Dr. Joseph Mercola tries to sell on his site. After looking around, most chemists and biologists seem to agree that Clostridium botulinum tops the list. I didn't see aspartame on anyones list, except for some natural health sites. (C. botulinum is botulism. The same thing that causes food poisoning and is used for Botox treatments.) He makes a long series of claims, all of which have been disproven by multiple studies from multiple agencies. In his article, he takes the breakdown components of aspartame, lists their percentages of aspartame, and the dangers of consuming them. The way it's written, aside from trying to frighten people, is misleading. I will agree with him that each of the components is deadly, but the caveat is that it is dependent on the dosage! If you drink straight formaldehyde, yes, you will more than likely die. Same for methanol. The amounts that you would ingest in your everyday, normal diet, however, are no where near the lethal amounts. He names a great many health problems, ranging from headaches, migraines, depression and anxiety attacks to rashes, tinnitus, and vision problems. He also says that Alzheimers, epilepsy, and brain tumors can be aggravated by the consumption of aspertame. Now, I've talked briefly about Mercola, and sites like his before. For the most part, these "natural health" sites are designed to scare the hell out of people and then get them to buy their alternative products that are supposed to be safer. (As a side note, Dr. Joseph Mercola is actually a doctor...of Osteopathy. Take that as you will.) If you go to any of these sites, and I don't recommend it, look at the navigation bar. Everyone of them is going to have a "store" heading where they sell al sorts of pseudoscientific bullshit. If you go to the about pages, almost everyone of them will say something along the lines of "Big Pharma doesn't want you to know this, don't trust "western" medicine or allopaths, don't believe the media hype, don't be a sheeple" and so on. What he never acknowledges is that, as I've stated, aspertame is one of the most studied food stuffs on the planet, and very few problems have ever been found. Even Cancer.org had no research saying that there is a link between aspertame and any form of cancer. Every last damned thing he lists as a problem caused by aspertame has been studied multiple times, and the findings have shown aspertame is not the culprit. A lot of what he does falls directly into the realm of the conspiracy theorists and their tactics. All in all, like many other Woo subjects, most of the "controversies" that are brought up by people are actually created by people with either a lack of knowledge in that particular area or they have something to sell.
Dangers
I was able to find 1 main problem with aspertame. People that suffer from PKU (phenylketonuria) are unable to process phenylalanine. PKU is a genetic disorder which can lead to a series of neurological disorders including seizures and mental disabilities. This can be controlled through diet, and avoiding phenylalanine. Children are tested for this condition at birth, just so their parents will know to monitor their diets. Otherwise, looking through the WHO, CDC, and Pubmeds, I couldn't really find anything to substantiate any of the claims on the Mercola site.
Conclusion
I would say feel free to enjoy that diet soda, just, like all things, do it in moderation. With all the research behind it, I have no problem with aspartame, except I personally don't like the taste of diet foods. Like anything else, when you hear a claim, look into it and see what is going on. Check the sources, make sure they are reputable, and don't have an agenda.
Until next time, be good, be reasonable, and be sure to hug your favorite skeptic.
The Skeptical Okie
Wednesday, November 27, 2013
Conspiracy theories for the beginning skeptic.
Hey kiddos, how has everyone been. Not too bad here, just trying to avoid getting run over by the truck called life. A lot of interesting things have been happening in the world of science and skepticism. Comet Ison, the death of Sylvia Browne, the Burzynski Clinic back in the news, and the "Dueling Dinos" fossil going up for sale. I'm not going to talk about any of these. Lately, a lot of people have been asking my opinion on a particular topic about an event that happened before most of them were born. And no, I wasn't born yet either, and I wouldn't be for another 13 years. Due to the fact it's the 50th anniversary of the assassination of J.F.K.(Kinda weird what some people celebrate, isn't it?) I've decided to dive into the topic. Not the with J.F.K in particular, but the larger field of conspiracy theories in general.
What is a Conspiracy Theory?
Before I get any farther, let me state now that I will never say conspiracies don't exist or happen. They do. People work together to get other people fired or arrested, They may form a conspiracy to throw someone a surprise birthday party.(the only benign form of a conspiracy I could think of off the top of my head.) But one thing to remember about conspiracies is this: humans are involved, and humans suck at keeping secrets. No matter how much you pay people, or what oaths you make a group take, at some point someone is going to tell, due to their conscience, accidentally talking about it while inebriated, or wanting a bit of fame that goes along with being part of whatever the act was. And the more people that are involved, the higher the odds that someone is going to talk. Now I can come down from my soap box and get back to the topic at hand.
First off, a conspiracy is defined by The Free Online Dictionary as:
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
A theory, also from The Free Online Dictionary is:
Common Conspiracies
The reason I started with the assassination of JFK is that pretty much from the day it happened, people have been coming up with various hypothesis' as to why it happened and who did it, And they continue to be debated to this day. Every time there is a tragic event, some people automatically start coming up with alternative theories. Think back to the Twin Towers in New York, the Sandy Hook school shooting, or even Hurricane Sandy. In each event, some people decided that the official story couldn't be the truth, so they came up with an alternative hypothesis that they felt was closer to the truth, at least as they see it. With JFK, the ideas are that there were multiple shooters, Oswald was just a scapegoat, the CIA did it, the KGB, or even Vice-President Johnson was responsible. With the towers, yes there was a conspiracy, but it is unlikely that G.W. Bush was in on it. The conspiracy was between Al-Qaeda operatives that wanted to cause physical, emotional, and moral damage to the U.S. With Sandy Hook, the idea is that the Obama administration set up a false shooting event to promote gun control legislation. With Hurricane Sandy, some people actually believe that Obama caused it using the H.A.A.R.P. facility. Some other theories that you may have heard of are :
What is a Conspiracy Theory?
Before I get any farther, let me state now that I will never say conspiracies don't exist or happen. They do. People work together to get other people fired or arrested, They may form a conspiracy to throw someone a surprise birthday party.(the only benign form of a conspiracy I could think of off the top of my head.) But one thing to remember about conspiracies is this: humans are involved, and humans suck at keeping secrets. No matter how much you pay people, or what oaths you make a group take, at some point someone is going to tell, due to their conscience, accidentally talking about it while inebriated, or wanting a bit of fame that goes along with being part of whatever the act was. And the more people that are involved, the higher the odds that someone is going to talk. Now I can come down from my soap box and get back to the topic at hand.
First off, a conspiracy is defined by The Free Online Dictionary as:
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design
Basically it means people working in secret to perform an act, normally an immoral or illegal one.A theory, also from The Free Online Dictionary is:
1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture
The last definition is the one that is related when most people use the term "theory". In common language, it means a guess, while when using it in the scientific sense, it is an idea or concept that has been tested and proven to be accurate. So when you break down the term "conspiracy theory" it means "I think people are secretly working against the common good of an individual or group." When the conspiracy theorists use the term theory and try to make it sound like they have used the scientific process to come to their conclusions, they are still using the the common language form of the term. They are making a guess, and then finding the information that seems to fit their personal ideas. The reason that understanding conspiracy theories is important to the burgeoning skeptic is that they tie into almost all other areas of WOO, from alt med (the government and Big Pharma are working to keep this cure a secret), to climate change (the scientists are creating global warming so we have to depend on them for an answer), to the obvious example of government and politics (I really don't have to put an example here, do I? Okay, fine for you in the back, but next time, be here on time. How about... The government created A.I.D.S. to hurt the gay/african american/other affected minority groups.) Often WOO aficionados will use a conspiracy theory to rationalize what they do, and to make what they are doing seem even more legitimate. Even ghost hunters and those that believe near death experiences will use the scientific community as an evil organization hellbent on keeping information secret. Common Conspiracies
The reason I started with the assassination of JFK is that pretty much from the day it happened, people have been coming up with various hypothesis' as to why it happened and who did it, And they continue to be debated to this day. Every time there is a tragic event, some people automatically start coming up with alternative theories. Think back to the Twin Towers in New York, the Sandy Hook school shooting, or even Hurricane Sandy. In each event, some people decided that the official story couldn't be the truth, so they came up with an alternative hypothesis that they felt was closer to the truth, at least as they see it. With JFK, the ideas are that there were multiple shooters, Oswald was just a scapegoat, the CIA did it, the KGB, or even Vice-President Johnson was responsible. With the towers, yes there was a conspiracy, but it is unlikely that G.W. Bush was in on it. The conspiracy was between Al-Qaeda operatives that wanted to cause physical, emotional, and moral damage to the U.S. With Sandy Hook, the idea is that the Obama administration set up a false shooting event to promote gun control legislation. With Hurricane Sandy, some people actually believe that Obama caused it using the H.A.A.R.P. facility. Some other theories that you may have heard of are :
- The moon landing
- The Oklahoma city Bombing
- Pearl Harbor
- The Boston Marathon
- The Holocaust never happening
- Perpetual motion or free energy machines
- Several over the cause or purpose of H.I.V.and A.I.D.S.
- Suppression of the cures for cancer or A.I.D.S.
- Suppression of various advanced technologies
- Weapon testing
- Fluoride in the water
- Suppression of natural, traditional, or alternative medicine
- RFID chips
- Aliens
- pretty much any war or assassinations
- The Templars, Illuminati, or various other shadow groups
- Cloud seeding
- Climate Change
- Subliminal Advertising
- Genetically Organized Organisms
- Princess Diana was killed by the monarchy
- Princess Di, Elvis, and JFK are alive and in hiding
- False flag operations
How conspiracy theories are created and countering them
It seems to be fairly easy to come up with a conspiracy theory about any given event. All that you have to do is look at an event, do some research on it, find a detail that you think doesn't sound right, and then do what's called "cherry picking" through the information to find details that fit your personal views. Cherry picking is when you look at data and pick out the few facts that fit what you want to prove. What many conspiracy theorists do is they find anything anomalous and build their sandcastle from there. One example is the infamous Tower 7 during the 9/11 crisis. This building was used to store federal investigation records. The conspiracy nutters claim that fire alone couldn't have destroyed the steel building, and it was never hit by a plane. While the building wasn't hit by a plane, it was hit by part of the twin towers as they fell. Also, fire doesn't have to "destroy" a building in order for it to fall, it just has to cause enough structural damage to the building for it to no longer be able to support its own weight. (and as a happy note, this is the first time when I've researched a topic, and the skeptical side of the argument has been the majority of web hits that I got on Google.) I'm not going to go into detail on each and every point of all the conspiracies that are floating around. Some people have spent their entire career working on just one conspiracy theory, trying to show how and why the official story is the most likely truth. The thing to keep in mind is that when all the "anomalies" analyzed and put into the bigger picture instead of taken separately, they are no longer an anomaly, but a critical part of the narrative. You can debate with the conspiracy theorists, but normally, they do have a lot of in-depth knowledge on the topic that only an expert would have. When talking to them on their topic of choice, they may use the "Gish-Gallop" technique. This is when a lot of points are thrown out in a rapid-fire manner that doesn't give you a chance to rebuke any of them, let alone all of them. They may also use the "Galileo" fallacy. This is when they compare themselves to the famous astronomer and his persecution by the church. Ad Hoc, Strawman, and Ad Hominem attacks are also very commonly used. They also tend to use terms in a derogatory manner, such as "official", "truth", and "they" to denote that the official truth of the matter is simply a story that they want the sheeple to follow. The fans of various conspiracies will also insist that "they know the truth and everything from main stream media is a lie." They can be so devoted to their "cause" that even if you are able to successfully debate every one of their points, they will simply claim that you are being blinded by the government lies, you're on the payroll of whatever shadow group, you need to be skeptical about what you're being told, or only they know what's going on. Not to say that having a dialogue with these folks is a complete waste of time. On the rare occasion, you can actually get them to accept reality and let go of their delusions. The real value of debating these folks, especially in a public forum, is that some people that are on the fence may be pushed into looking into more information, and not just looking at infowars or listening to Coast to Coast AM.
Why they persist
I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist, so I do not have a professional opinion as to why these won't go away. In my lay-person opinion however, I feel that the main reason people continue to create and believe in conspiracy theories is that they are trying to find a way to make sense of everything going on around them. In their minds, there has to be a reason why things happen. Hurricane Sandy couldn't have done the damage it did without someone guiding it. Kennedy couldn't have been shot by a single disturbed individual on his own, there had to be a larger power backing him. To a lot of these people, there just has to be someone in charge, otherwise the world is a chaotic, dangerous place where stuff happens for no reason. Another reason that these conspiracy theories are going to continue to exist is that humans are pattern seeking creatures. We see faces in power outlets, rabbits in clouds, and gunmen behind picket fences. This is probably an evolutionary trait developed to keep us from becoming a larger predators brunch. We may not be able to completely get rid of conspiratorial thinking, partly due to the way our brains work, and partly due to the fact that there are real conspiracies, but hopefully, we can work to lessen there influence and the problems they cause. The key to defeating or at least countering conspiracy theories is to use, and urge others, reliable sources. The hard core theorists will simply say that these are dis-information tools used by whatever flavor of secret cabal is out there, but in all honesty, they are the best we have.
Why are they dangerous?
Conspiracy theories are dangerous for several reasons. Some people become so obsessed with their pet theory that they tend to lose touch with a little thing called reality. One day they are talking about how Monsanto is trying to use GMO's to control the sheeple(a lovely term a lot of conspiracy theorists use)and a couple of weeks later, the squirrels are attempting genocide against humans by jumping out in front of their cars to make them crash.(and yes, I have heard that from a fellow that actually believed it, he even had documentation.) They also dilute and distort the real facts behind an event, which causes distrust in any official sources. Granted, on occasion, there have been real conspiracies that have cropped up. Can you say Iran-Contra and Oliver North? How about the NSA (which just got me entered into their database of subversives by golly) and Snowden? Who out there remembers the WMD's in Iraq? Yes events like these do happen, but if you compare the number of actual conspiracies to the number that are reported all the time, just a minuscule fraction of a percentage are true. This brings up another point. If you'll notice, all of these events became major news after being reported and researched. The other conspiracies are still met with derision due to the fact that they can't be corroborated and proven. The lines of evidence have been reviewed and found to be lacking. Some of the theorists insist that there is a shadow government run by lizards, aliens, the Templar Knights, Colonel Sanders, etc., that is capable of hiding anything or anyone they want to. Keep in mind they are including the same government that was unable to hide the fact that a president received oral sex in the oval office. And I don't mean Grover Cleveland. Besides, do you realize how much power any single organization would have to wield to keep something off of the internet? If they really had that much power, and the ability to make people disappear, then why are there still conspiracy theorists out there, and not just new ones, but the same ones that have been doing this shit for years?
What can be done, and should we do anything?
There are a few things that we, as skeptics, can do. First is to TAKE BACK THE WORD SKEPTIC!!!! The last few years, I have noticed an increasing trend of these folks on the fringes to claim that they are "skeptics" and "skeptical" about the "official" story. They claim that they look at more evidence than the official sources, and therefore, they have a special insight into the reality of events. What they really tend to do is follow a single line of evidence that will lead them straight back to their conclusion. They don't listen to the actual experts, they listen to people who, at best, may have a personal anecdote to share. As members of the skeptical community, whether you call yourself a skeptic, free thinker, rational thinker, critical thinker, or realist, we need to take this term back from the lunatic fringe! They have made it to where the phrase "I'm a skeptic" means that no information will change your mind. A true skeptic will change their mind with the evidence. (Sorry about the rant folks, but my news feeds under "skeptic" nowadays have people decrying evolution, climate change, vaccines, and the like.) Another thing that can be done is to point people towards non-partisan, non-biased sources of information. These would be websites such as Snopes.com, which is pretty good for quickly taking apart some of the Facebook urban legends that pop up all the time, and Wikipedia.com. I know people complain about Wikipedia and the fact that anyone can write on almost any article, but they really do have some good controls, and the fact that anyone can write means that bad information will be called out and fixed quickly, provided they can cite and document their sources. Most of the time newspapers such as the New York Times and newsgroups such as CNN, MSN, and Google News are fairly reliable, but you still have to check the sources, so point them towards any relevant topics at these places as well. Finally, be reasonable about when and how to approach someone. If they think that the cat next door is working with the Rottweiler across the street to make their life a living hell, it might be best to point out cats and dogs normally don't work together well and leave it at that. If someone thinks that the manager at Walmart is secretly putting Illuminati secret pictographs in the bar codes and they need to be taken out before the New World Order can take over, then it might be time to really step in and show them why it is likely not a real scenario, and that they might need psychiatric help. If they continually post things from InfoWars, Mercola, and the like on FaceBook, find the corresponding article on Snopes and post it as a reply. Most of all, as long as they aren't posing a danger to themselves or others, deal with them in a calm thoughtful manner. Find out why they think the way they do, and try and use that reasoning to show them the "other side" of the evidence and let them make a decision from there. You would be surprised how often people come to a , and because I really don't want to use the word proper, more accurate interpretation of reality
I hope that you found this article at least somewhat entertaining and informative. I also hope that my American readers have a happy and safe Thanksgiving. If anyone gives you the line about tryptophan putting people to sleep, to keep the peace, just say "yes Uncle Mikey, of course." As a disclaimer, I actually enjoy listening to conspiracy theories and the people that promote them, such as Jesse Ventura and the Conspiracy Uncovered show that used to be on TV here in Oklahoma. Alex Jones, I can do without. That man is such a right wing conservative nutjob, I can only listen to 25 seconds of him talking before I want to facepalm my self, with both hands, balled up into fists, holding boughs of poison oak, while they're on fire. As usual, you can leave any questions, comments or limericks in the comment section. Until next time, remember to be reasonable, be kind and rewind.
The Skeptical Okie
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I hope that you found this article at least somewhat entertaining and informative. I also hope that my American readers have a happy and safe Thanksgiving. If anyone gives you the line about tryptophan putting people to sleep, to keep the peace, just say "yes Uncle Mikey, of course." As a disclaimer, I actually enjoy listening to conspiracy theories and the people that promote them, such as Jesse Ventura and the Conspiracy Uncovered show that used to be on TV here in Oklahoma. Alex Jones, I can do without. That man is such a right wing conservative nutjob, I can only listen to 25 seconds of him talking before I want to facepalm my self, with both hands, balled up into fists, holding boughs of poison oak, while they're on fire. As usual, you can leave any questions, comments or limericks in the comment section. Until next time, remember to be reasonable, be kind and rewind.
The Skeptical Okie
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