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Tuesday, April 23, 2013

Autism denial a.k.a "The world gave my kid Autism!!!"

I hope everyone's month has been pretty good.  I also hope you survived the zombie/giant chocolate rabbit celebration and no one ended up in jail due to a lack of foresight of the consequences during April Fools Day. This article is going to be long, mostly because there are a lot of points that need to be addressed and I tried to get to them all.  And if you could, please leave a comment.  This would at least let me know that people are actually taking an interest in what I'm  doing.  It doesn't have to be anything deep or meaningful.  even a Hi would do.  Or a G'Day mate from the several Aussie readers out there.

This item was brought to my attention recently by a concerned person, and they asked me to look into it.  The title of the article is "I gave my son Autism" and as best I can tell, it actually wasn't written by Jenny McCarthy.  The entire article is found here .  The website that it's on, Thinking Mom's Revolution, seems to be an autism activism website.  Among this groups "resources" are:
The National Vaccine Information Center-  Reads like an anti-vaccers website, complete with the Vaccine Freedom Wall and the Vaccine Victim Memorial
Natural News Radio-  First article on the wall as of 4-1-2013 is about the lies spread by the CDC
They have quite a list, and they all read about the same, and I'm not going to try and list them all here.  Vaccines kill or permanently injure, the government lies, doctors are just in it to make money, etc...  You can find the entire list here.  They also have an ad with a blurb from Jenny McCarthy that states "The most amazing, inspiring, ball busting, loving bloggers out there.  You chicks rock.  Love you."  You know with a commendation like that, the research and fact finding has to be top notch.  I'm not saying that all the authors lean to alternative medicine and conspiracy theories, but, it does seem that the majority of them do.  The members all seem to have one of three things in common.  1) They have multiple children, all of whom have various health issues. 2) Stated to have strong christian beliefs. or 3) Believe that their children can overcome or "shed" their diagnosis of autism.  Some have all three, others only 1 or 2, with a couple of exceptions.  But these factors seem to tie the majority of members together.  I'm not going to go any farther into the website, mostly because I like to keep my blood pressure below the burst blood vessels stage.

Before I go into the blog post, I'm going to take a moment to discuss autism.  According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control) "Autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) are a group of developmental disabilities that can cause significant social, communication and behavioral challenges."  According to the NIH (National Institute of Health) :

Autism is a group of developmental brain disorders, collectively called autism spectrum disorder (ASD). The term "spectrum" refers to the wide range of symptoms, skills, and levels of impairment, or disability, that children with ASD can have. Some children are mildly impaired by their symptoms, but others are severely disabled.
ASD is diagnosed according to guidelines listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition - Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR).1 The manual currently defines five disorders, sometimes called pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs), as ASD:
  • Autistic disorder (classic autism)
  • Asperger's disorder (Asperger syndrome)
  • Pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS)
  • Rett's disorder (Rett syndrome)
  • Childhood disintegrative disorder (CDD).

The causes of autism are believed to be partly genetic and environmental.  It is a very complex issue, with no definite answers.  There are strong genetic links to autism, but it also turns up in families with no history of the disorder, which implies a random mutation.  It could also be that some environmental factors could trigger the symptoms in one person, and an entirely different set of circumstances impact another.  This is the part of scientific research that causes most people the most problems.  Science has to say "I don't know" when it doesn't know.  We can research and begin to rule out possible causes, and then we're left with the most probable.  A lot of the anti vaccine crowd often touts (former)Dr. Andrew Wakefield and his 1998 paper claiming that the MMR vaccine causes autism.  This paper has been ripped apart, debunked, and basically called a bogus piece of shit.  Wakefield, who had developed his own vaccine and was trying to market it, did a very poorly conducted study with just 12 kids.  It was later found that he either tweaked or misinterpreted the data for his own ends.  Wikipedia and CNN.com both have fairly good write-ups on the issue.  He has since been banned from practicing medicine, and he has launched several lawsuits for defamation.  When putting his name into Google, I did find numerous pages supporting him, namely ones like naturalnews.com, drwakefieldjusticefund.org, and mercola.com, just to start with.  Natural News scores about a 9 on the Skeptical Woo Scale (SWS, trademark pending), and Mercola is a "natural health" website, and the justice fund is self explanatory.  Considering the number of studies looking to find a link between vaccines and autism, very, very few have ever found a correlation between them.  Thimerosal, a preservative used in some vaccines, has been the main culprit that has been blamed.  It has been phased out of most vaccines in this country since 1999.
Some people also claim certain foods are to blame, such as aspartame, caffeine, or GM crops.  Once again, no single thing has been proven to be the main cause.
And now to talk about what started all this.  On the Thinking Mom's Revolution site, they have a blogger who goes by Mountain Momma, and she wrote an article in 2005 called "How I gave my son autism."  She starts the article with stating she was raised Catholic.  Through all of this, keep in mind that this is a religious group that guilt is inherent to their beliefs.  She states "..idea of forgiveness is still critical to how I walk through life."  She initially places all the blame for her son having autism on herself and choices she made while pregnant, but it quickly devolves into trying to find a scapegoat so she doesn't have to take all her perceived blame on her own shoulders.  She does list the ways she gave her son autism, and we're going to go through them.  So go and grab a sandwich and a beer or 3, you might need it. (If you don't drink the third one, send it my way.  I need it after digging through all of this.  I did enjoy doing the research, but there were times that I felt like face palming myself with a baseball bat.)  
1) Ultrasounds- Mountain Momma (from now will be M.M., so I don't wear out the m key) says that she had 5 ultrasounds during her pregnancy.  She claims that there is an implication that ultrasounds cause autism.  Her link in the article leads to the ICPA website.  This is the International Chiropratic Pediatric Association, and in the header of their page, my Skepdar (once again, trademark pending) went off as soon as I saw the word "wellness".  I looked through the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, and I found 1 article immediately that said that ultrasounds were not likely to cause the disorder, but I couldn't find any definitive studies.  You can read the article here.  
2) High Fructose Corn Syrup- M.M. says she drank Coca Cola (no, that wasn't product placement, I get no money from Big Soda) every day during pregnancy.   The link she has to Livestrong.com, claims that Coca Cola has 62 ppT (that's parts per trillion).  The reference from here leads back to her other link, which is the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy.  They claim to have tested 55 products and found mercury in  about 1/3 of them.  The links on their page are dead though and just take you back to their home page.  I couldn't find much of anything concerning this.  Not from the USDA, the FDA, or any reliable sources on the web.
3) Lortab/Acetaminophen- M.M. claims her O.B. gave her Lortab for fibermyalgia.  She says that it is a Category C drug, and even though she couldn't find any specific links, common sense should have dictated that this wasn't good.  I was unaware of the categories, so I went to Wikipedia and found this:
United States FDA Pharmaceutical Pregnancy Categories
Pregnancy Category AAdequate and well-controlled human studies have failed to demonstrate a risk to the fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy (and there is no evidence of risk in later trimesters).
Pregnancy Category BAnimal reproduction studies have failed to demonstrate a risk to the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women OR Animal studies have shown an adverse effect, but adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women have failed to demonstrate a risk to the fetus in any trimester.
Pregnancy Category CAnimal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks.
Pregnancy Category DThere is positive evidence of human fetal risk based on adverse reaction data from investigational or marketing experience or studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks.
Pregnancy Category XStudies in animals or humans have demonstrated fetal abnormalities and/or there is positive evidence of human fetal risk based on adverse reaction data from investigational or marketing experience, and the risks involved in use of the drug in pregnant women clearly outweigh potential benefits.
Pregnancy Category NFDA has not classified this drug.


Cat. C drugs are basically used if the benefits outweigh the risks.  Her wording implies that she was specifically looking for links between autism and Lortab.  This is trying to prove an idea by bending the research to fit (Andrew Wakefield comes to mind.)  

4) Pitocin- M.M. states that during an ultrasound, it was revealed that her water was getting low, so they decided to induce labor.  After several hours, the hospital encouraged her to sign a waiver allowing them to increase the level to "illegal" levels.  As far as I could find, there are no waivers that allow any hospital to exceed the legal limit of any form of medication.  The link she provides here once again leads to the ICPA website.  for those that don't know, pitocin is used to induce labor, and is a synthetic form of oxytocin.  (When I Googled pitocin, a lot of the first articles that popped up were from sites such as natural child birth and natural news.)

5) C-section-M.M. had to have an emergency c-section instead of the natural child birth that she had been hoping for.  She states that "Because I had made the bad decisions about the ultrasounds that led to the bad decision about the Pitocin that led to labor trauma, I ultimately had to have an emergency C-section"   Basically, she is blaming her previous medical procedures for the necessity of a c-sections rather than complications that do occur during labor.  She links to an article by George Malcolm Morley, who claims that using a clamp during a c-section is 4 times more likely to result in autism or Cerebral Palsy.  In reading the article, which appears to have used primates in the study (and yet M.M. doesn't trust Lortab because not enough human tests have been done?  Can you say cognitive dissonance?), he also mentions that "for every 100 women that get a bachelors degree, just 73 men earn one"  He starts this line with the fact more women are going to college, and at the end, seems to blame it on autism.  He has quite a few articles on the effects of cord clamping, and they all appear to look negatively on the procedure.  I also found an interesting comment on http://pediatrics.aappublications.org, the website for Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.  You can read it here.  Basically, he doesn't like their methodology because is doesn't look like his, and they came to the conclusion that clamping more than likely has very little effect on the development of autism.  In the article that M.M. uses, Dr. Morley states "Dozens of studies correlate infant iron deficiency anemia with low IQ"  He doesn't list any.  even though M.m. uses this to show that her c-section is yet another cause of her sons autism, the author never states that c-sections are a factor. Instead, his career seems to be based on cord clamping causing all types of neurological disorders.

6) Antibiotics- First, I have to say DERP!  M.M. says her son was exposed to antibiotics while in distress during labor, then through her breast milk, and then 5 times for chronic ear infections before he was a year old.  Then at his 6 month check up, he got his vaccinations and a prescription for Amoxicillian.  She says this turned his bowel movements watery and acidic enough to flay the hide off of his bottom and he developed an upper respiratory infection.  He also received a single dose of Augmentin, which she has a link for.  This link leads to PRWeb, which seems to be a general news page.  The day I looked at it, in the science section, there was a glowing review of an astrologer.  Not an astronomer.  That should give you a hint right there.  I found a couple of legitimate articles that state that there is little to no link between autism and antibiotics.  I also found many articles, mostly of the ilk I've already mentioned like natural news and prevent autism, that claim there is.  Personally, I'll lean towards the peer reviewed, blinded results over a correlation-causation argument.

7) Vaccines- You knew this one was going to make an appearance, didn't you.  M.M. informs the readers that she has Fibromyalgia, and that autoimmune disease and digestive disorders (Celiac Disease?) are on both sides of the childs family.  Her son had jaundice, cephalohematoma ( hemorrhage of blood between the skull and the periosteum of a newborn baby, caused by a prolonged second stage of labor), rashes, severe reflux, chronic rhinitis(  inflammation of the mucous membrane of the nose ), ear infections, and eczema.  At this point, she has left her pediatrician, and found a new one that informs her that with all of his problems, her son should never have been vaccinated.  Granted, some people are incapable of receiving vaccinations, usually because they are allergic to one or more of the ingredients or if they are severely imunocompromised.  The link she provides here takes you to the Adventures in Autism website, which sounds like a horrible Disney ride.  The top of the article says "I will just start archiving studies that support the vaccine/autism link."  This website basically cherry picks the data it wants that supports its views.  M.M., at the time that she wrote it says that they have over 60 studies that prove a link.  She doesn't mention the hundreds that show no definitive link between autism and vaccinations.  M.M.'s article was written a bit before Wakefield was discredited and he lost his license to practice medicine.

8) Acetaminaphen/Paracetamol  M.M. calls this "red, liquid death".  She says that it shuts down the body's production of gluthione, the "#1 antioxidant"  Looking up gluthione, one of the first articles I saw was by video by Dr. Oz.  Of course there was a number of articles from Natural News and Mercola, and strangely enough, a lot of ads from supplement companies.  There were some articles from WebMD warning about possible side effects.  If you Google the term "#1 antioxidant", you get a lot of very differnt results, ranging from coffee and blueberries to smoothie recipes.

9) Fluoride-  We almost forgot this one. Apparently, vaccines and fluoride cause almost every terrible disease that "main stream" scientists haven't figures out the exact cause or cure for.  In her blog post M.M. uses the phrase "One of the biggest scams ever perpetuated on a population in the history of mankind"  She has 2 links in the paragraph, one links to SLWeb.org, which is an anti-fluoride group, and the other one is for earthclinic.com.  I couldn't look at this one, because it was either down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.  It's been like this for more than a month.  She says that the fluoride in the water she was buying for her son can bind to the aluminum in the vaccines and transport it through the entire body.  She claims it is more toxic than lead, and slightly less toxic than arsenic.  This depends on it's formulation.  She also says that it can cross the blood brain barrier, but everything I can find from actual medical websites is that, aside from being part of the plasma in your blood to begin with, the barrier is thought to reduce the transfer.  I can't find anything that shows a link between autism and fluoride.  At least anything that doesn't come from Natural news, Mercola, and other quack sites.

10) Everything else on the planet-  She finishes her article saying that diet, toxic cookware (teflon, copper, aluminum, stainless steel? Or is she using a cyanide/uranium based cookware?), benzocaine teething gel, and toxic building materials are all to blame for her childs autism.  (Munchausens?)  She says that she is at fault, yet somehow manages to place the blame on the medical community, big business, and everyone else.  She never acknowledges that autism may be caused by a genetic condition.  I don't think that she is to blame for her sons condition.  It can happen to anyone.  What I do have a problem with is her trying to find blame on everything around her.  I know this is a grief response and she is trying to find some answers, but she is basically lashing out at anyone or anything she thinks may be responsible for her sons autism.

Then I went through the comments.  A lot of the people tell her that she's is a brave woman for finding the truth about the cause of her sons autism, and that telling everyone is a noble thing to do.  One of the people said she should try Neurological Reorganization.  This is a hypothesis (to use the proper term) which basically says that mental handicaps may be caused by a missing learned motor skill.  Basically, a developmentally challenged child may be that way because they learned to walk before they crawled.  So the answer is to have them go back through various exercises that recreate learning these skills to cure, or to use the new alt med buzz word, shed their condition.  As far as I can find, this has never been proven to be accurate.  (I personally walked before I crawled, and I'm relatively normal) Another person writing in the comments suggests using a juicer or weed (yeah, lets give marijuana to a little kid.  Or were they suggesting it for M.M.?).  And yet another one suggested a strict plant based healing diet.  There were a lot of people offering support to the author, and her views on autism and her thoughts on the causes.  Any person that suggested that the medical community wasn't at fault, or suggested reputable, peer reviewed research was viciously attacked and told to open their eyes to the truth.

It's stories like these, and the people that propagate the ideas behind them that make me glad we have people like Tim Farley and his "What's the Harm" website, as well as the people behind the "Jenny McCarthy Bodycount".  When people are scared or upset that their child has a condition, and they want to know why, they often become upset when science has to say  "We don't know." and turn to mysticism or alternative medicine because it will provide an answer.  It may be chi, chakra, problems in a past life, humours are no longer aligned, Pluto is in the wrong house, whatever.  Making up reasons is what quack medicine does best.   Just remember that when some of the anti-vaccers say  that "X" causes autism, true science has yet to determine what the exact cause is, though a large number of things have been ruled out.  Until a true cause has been found, everything else is pure speculation.  In this regard, they are very similar to conspiracy theorists, and quite often have the same beliefs.

I know this was a long one, and thanks for sticking through it until the end. Until next time, Be Good, Be Thoughtful, and have fun.

The Skeptical Okie





Tuesday, March 19, 2013

The one year anniversary!

I just noticed that the blog is 1 year old today, so happy birthday to it!  Other famous events on March 19 are : 1997- Supreme court hears Internet indecency arguments, 1987-Jim Bakker resigns after a sex scandal with Jessica Hahn, and in 1915-Pluto photographed for the first time.  Yes there are a lot of other events, but most of them are sports stats, and I really didn't feel like listing all of them.  I'll admit that the posts haven't been coming out on a regular basis, which I hope to fix in the near future, and I still plan on writing about "The Family".  Due to work, home life, the blog has on occasion taken a back seat.   Don't worry, much like Jesus, I am always thinking of the faithful, and watching.  So you, put the brownie back, you said you were saving it for tomorrow, and you in the shed, that's not what that's used for.  You're going to hurt someone.

I know I've covered a handful of different topics, and tried several different formats.  It seems that the ones covering religion and the cryptids are the most popular.  As I've said, I don't want this to be a strictly atheist blog.  If the religious right (Reich?) attempts to put themselves into the ring concerning science or public policies, then damn right I'll fight.  I still want to cover some of the other things that cause people to either directly or indirectly cause harm to themselves and others, such as conspiracy theories and false medical claims.  If you have a topic that you would live to have me cover, let me know.  No topic is taboo, and no research is too strenuous.  In the near future, I hope to cover The Discovery Institute, which has been causing a lot of headaches lately, especially for the NCSE.  I may also do a post on Ken Hamm and his Answers in Genesis group.  I hope that my writing style has improved, and that more people are finding it at least tolerable, if not enjoyable.  I also hope to continue this for another year.  Sometimes the topics I want to cover come at me like a Gish Gallop, and it's difficult to pick one that I'll have the time to dig into and see whats going on.  Other times, they are so few and far between, finding one is like finding a homeopath that admits it's all placebo.  So stick with me, and let's hope the next revolution around the sun is even better.

Until next time, be good, be skeptical, and be home in time for dinner.

The Skeptical Okie














Thursday, March 14, 2013

Death of Oklahoma H.B. 1674

After a valiant attempt to grow and thrive, I must report on the passing of Oklahoma House Bill 1674, the Scientific Education and Academic Freedom bill.  H.B. 1674 was allowed to expire before a final reading of the bill was performed.  News of its passing came to me on FaceBook from the NCSE.  I know this may come as a shock to some, but I believe it was for the best.  At least it has gone to a better place.  Namely the wastebasket of a file clerk in the Capitol.  I am happy that this atrocity of legislation never saw the light of day, but in all seriousness, how did it ever pass the Education Committee vote?  Like I stated in the previous post, the language is identical to bills put forward in other states, and is the same rhetoric used by the Discovery Institute.  How much influence do these people have with state politicians that these types of bills seem to be submitted every year?  There have already been 7 of these in 2013, and it's only March.  The skeptical community, and anyone that gives a damn about the future of the education of our children, is going to have to be diligent whenever these "education" bills are authored and put to a vote.  They also seem to go forward pretty quickly, so we have to move fast when they occur.  This was just a quick note about the status of the bill, so I will go ahead and sign off and hopefully sleep well.

Monday, March 11, 2013

Update on HB 1674, Scientific Education and Academic Freedom Act



O.K. folks, I was browsing the internet to see what I could learn about the anti-science education legislation bills that are currently floating around in the Oklahoma State House.  H.B. 1674 is apparently still alive, after being passed 9-8 on Feb. 9, 2013.  

The reps that voted Nay are Cannaday, Cox, Dewitt, McDaniel (J), Condit, Denney, McDaniel (C), and Virgin (no snickering) These fine folks need to be commended what they did, even though it seems to go against almost everything the rest of their peers are attempting.  

The reps that voted Yea are Blackwell (the author of the bill), Casey, Coody, Kern (of course, as well as being the co-author) Nelson, Nollan, Roberts (D), Smalley, and Thomsen.  These folks need to talk to a biologist, anthropologist, zoologist, or anyone else involved in one of the hard sciences to determine if there is any evidence that Intelligent Design (I.D.) actually has any basis in fact.  

I did notice that on the Nay side, while Cannaday, McDaniel (J) and (C), Condit, and Virgin are of the Democrat Party, the rest are actually Republicans and every single one that voted yea are Republican.

I also noticed that on the State of Oklahoma website, they list the effective date as "emergency"  Really????  WTF people.  It would appear that they are going to try and rush this bill through the House as quickly as they can and institute it immediately.  Similar bills have only passed in 2 states, Tennessee and Louisiana.  In Tennessee, even though it has passed, they advised school districts not to apply it, due to an uncertainty about the legality of the bill. The people trying to push "Intelligent Design" as a legitimate science, and not connected to religion are pointing out that there have been no lawsuits filed, so everything is fine and dandy, never mentioning that no district is enforcing it!!!  This info came from the OESE website, which is http://www.oklascience.org/.  They are the Oklahomans for Excellence in Science Education.    Another excellent group is the NCSE.  They are the National Center for Science Education.  They do a lot of fine work helping combat anti-science education legislation and discrimination across the country.  I suggest everyone that reads this blog and lives in the state of Oklahoma contact them and find out what they can do to help prevent an atrocity such as this from occurring.  If you don't know exactly who to contact, you can go here to find out who they are.  The members of the Common Education council are found here , so contact them as well. I know I am going to contact not only my state Representative, but also the members of the Common Education Council and inform them that allowing the students to use unfounded religious beliefs as a basis for scientific proof will undermine everything our science teachers have been trying to accomplish.  Bills such as these will leave the future generations woefully unprepared for college and employment, which in turn will effect our overall economy by making it less desirable for technology and science businesses to come and set up production or research centers.

I know that the bill does not specifically use the terms "Creation" or "Intelligent Design", and due to copyright protection, I really can't copy the whole bill and post it here for you to view.  I can, however, put up a link to the bill, which is here  If the link doesn't work, let me know, and I will attempt to fix it.  In the bill, one of the key phrases that clues people in that this is essentially a I.D. bill is "addresses scientific controversies".  This is the language that I.D. and creationism proponents have begun to use to slide these items past the casual reader.  It is a rather underhanded approach, but it may prove to be effective.  

Sorry there were no attempts at witty banter at the start, but as the Common Education Council puts it, the effective date for action on this issue is Emergency, and we need to act now.  Contact everyone you can, but remember to be respectful and polite.  If we come across as crass or rude, this will hurt us in the long run.  They will use poor attitudes as proof that without religion in the schools, everything will go to hell.  (I had to squeeze in one bad joke.)

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Monday, March 4, 2013

Science education and Oklahoma legislative failure.


Hey everyone, The Skeptical Okie here.  It's been fairly calm at the Skeptic headquarters, just busy.  First thing I've got to say is congratulations to the lawmakers that voted against Senate Bill 758.  For those that don't know, the was our most recent in Oklahoma to allow teachers to "teach the controversy" when it comes to topics such as evolution and climate change, or as the bills author, Gus Blackwell, puts it, allows students and teachers to question and explore the strengths and weaknesses of scientific controversies such as cloning, climate change, evolution, and the origin of life.  This bill would have diluted science education in the state to the same efficacy as homeopathy.  The problem is that a similar bill, House Bill 1674 is still live.  It is authored by Josh Brecheen, and appears to co-authored by guess who.  Yep Sally Kern. The  passage of bills like these would completely undermine science education in the state and severely hurt not just the state, but it would also hamper our children when they go to college.  They would enter a college biology classroom, and expect to be able to dispute any mention of evolution, and not be penalized for it.  Bills that "allow" people to disregard proven scientific principles in favor of a faith based approach to the way the world works will also slow scientific innovations as these students enter the work force.                                                                                  The authors of these bills have gotten creative in recent years and are careful to avoid any mention of creationism, which is a common tactic among the creationism proponents.  The National Center for Science Education fights these issues in every state, but they can't do it alone.  I'm urging every reader of this blog that resides in the state of Oklahoma to contact their state rep. and senator and tell them that these bills are damaging to the future of not only the state, but to the children as well.  They would also make us a laughing stock to the rest of the country, and if this trend continues to the other states, the entire world.  The creationist sect tries to pass these every couple of years, and so far, they haven't passed, yet.  They are getting sneakier with their wording, and they seem to get more support every time they put one of these mockeries forward for a vote.  It almost seems that education is just a political game for some of these folks, regardless of the actual long term effects they'll have.  "Education Bills" such as these should never even reach they floor.  They should be laughed at and mocked until they curl up and die.
    If the creationists could actually provide real, demonstrable evidence for their side of the "argument", then this might be a topic of discussion.  So far, every attempt to either prove their points or disprove what they feel are controversial topics have failed.  And their little battle cries of "teach the controversy" and  "there's no consensus" just goes to show that they haven't really looked into it.  They are simply buying into what their preacher, pastor, padre, or elder is telling them.  The controversies are primarily in their own heads.  For the most part, the scientific community agrees on evolution, climate change, the origin of life, and other subjects.  Their might be minor disagreements concerning the exact mechanisms, or a small details, but all in all, they are in agreement, ergo, a consensus.
    I know that this was a relatively short post, but we need to act soon to prevent this measure from passing. I am also getting so frustrated reading what these, and I'll be nice, people are trying to do to the education system in the state.  We are already ranked  42 in the country for science education.  Consider this a call to arms.  We need to fight for the future of the state, scientific literacy, and more importantly, the children.I am going to go ahead an wind this one up before I become less coherent than usual and really go off on a rant.  I hope to talk to everyone soon. Until next time, Be Goo, Be Well, and Be Skeptical.

The Skeptical Okie